Showroom 2dof foot mount sim powered by 12v Electric Jacks

I think it is better to do a new thread, so people can find it easier if needed.
For those fellow members that lives in countries that it is difficult to find suitable motors other than pitty wipers, there is another cheap alternative, introducing the "2Ton Electric jacks"
These are 12v 120watts motors, using a 50:1 gear box (or near that...) and around 55RPM



You can find these ones on Amazon for U$S60 http://www.amazon.com/Black-Bull-EJ212-Automatic-Electric/dp/B0027Z6F3W/ref=pd_sim_sbs_263_2?ie=UTF8&dpID=41lqJukJ9eL&dpSrc=sims&preST=_AC_UL160_SR160%2C160_&refRID=0S0KQBTFYEK0HV6YA7YP

I got mines locally for U$S35 new .

The mod is simple, just remove 4 bolts to free the motor, cut the shaft to size, you have to make a new mounting and the lever, to get something like this:


About the pot mounting, I decided to drill a hole in the center gear to put a 1/8 screw, and mount a gear there. That gear does 1,5 turns to get the 90 degrees we usually use for our sims:


The end result:

This video will help understand better the E jack insides (not mine video):

Also, the jacks comes with two limiters, that someone with a little more knowledge than me can use to stop the levers to get out of range.

Some more pics of my WIP sim:
(Sim based on @Archie 's foot mount fim)
Buttkicker LFE mounted at the rear with a metal plate to add effect:


The nuts were lathed to add freedom of movement to the ball bearings.:



Pedals and wheel mounts can be moved, the wheel also can go up and down:


I'd just finished to redo the control box, adding a second MM, so now each Jack has his own PSU and MM.
First test of the new box with SMC3:



I want to thanks to all the guys that helped me in the way, specially @Pit @noorbeast @Archie @bsft and for sure I'm forgetting a lot more!

This is live, so I hope I can add a video playing assetto just to show some real movements later.
Also as a WIP, once I be sure it will be final, it will get a black powder paint.

Nice job @mariano68 , good to see another "foot motor" spawn simulator.

Really interested to see those Jack motors in action during a game.

I want to gauge the speed for the possibility of making one of them into heave.

Well done @mariano68

Thanks!
The speed is about 50RPM
Video during a game soon
Also the pots are super cheap 1 dolar, I have better ones ready to replace.

I'm so bad at driving that I can't keep on track to get a decent video on assetto Corsa

Don't worry about driving skills.

Members of this forum are watching the sim move, not the driving....

Assetto Corsa is no ProjectCars or Race07.....Pick a relatively low Hp car and try again, Remember slow is fast. Especially when your just learning. Yes Street cars will have less "detail" in the motion but if your struggling to keep it on track, a 500hp race monster isn't going to help.

Yup, did some rounds with the KTM, I'm getting a little better, I just need to invert the effect when you get over the "pianos" (border of the curve, don't know the name in english) is it heave or roll ?

When you hit the "pianos" (Rumble Strip) it will be a mixture of Heave and Roll, however being a foot mount I tend to keep heave to a minimum in favour of pitch. Of course with roll, if you hit a rumble strip with the left side of your car, your sim should lean to the right, as you would expect in real life.

I only mention it here, not to state the obvious - I am sure you have it covered, but we see so many videos with the forces replicating what the car is doing, not what the "person in the car" is feeling.

Thanks for the translation
Exactly, if I hit a rumble strip with the left tire, the left "Actuator" will go up so the sim will lean to the right, isn't it? Even if I'm turning to the right.

Yes - It's why I found a foot mount sim so much easier to work out / tune. The front part of the sim is basically the front of the car so it's easy to work out the forces / axis.

I've taken my foot mount sim apart now, and turned it into a shoulder mount sim. Pics will be up soon.

Nice to know that your Sim will "carry the torch" now

Yeah I'd read that , could you tell me what was wrong/or don't liked?
I'm looking forward to see your new one!

I LOVED my foot mount sim. But it was HUGE and I needed to reclaim some of the space in my room. I could have made a compact foot mount sim, but I wanted to test what a shoulder mount sim was like. So I decided to go down the shoulder mount path.

PROS:
Must better response to Surge and Sway and Roll.
Much smaller foot print. I've saved about 120cm's in overall length and around 40cm in width.

CONS:
Pitch is poor, you just don't feel the "slope" as much.
Heave can be hard to offset. Too much and your teeth fall out, too little and it's pointless having.

I'm also looking to add in Traction loss at some point, and in order to keep it compact, a shoulder mount was the way to go.
I could have done it on my foot mount, but the base for the pivot point and the traction wheels would have been massive and taken up even more space.

Looks like you have the space though @mariano68 , so keep the faith with the foot mount. You will love Assetto Corsa tracks if you have your pitch set right. The ups and down on Nords used to have me grinning from ear to ear...

Damn... I miss pitch....

Yeah, it will take some time to tune it right.
Also, after seeing how strong these the motors are, I think I will make adjustable levers, so 5cm for racing and maybe 8 for flight sim.

Spanish
Muy bueno Mariano68
Lo habia pensado, pero los que habia visto en Argentina no me convencian para hacer unas pruebas
A la espera del video

English
Very Good Mariano68
I'm Thinking the same but i had not thought those who had been in Argentina did not convince me to do some tests.
Pending the video

Good Work

Ok, first video of sim moving
Playing Project cars with the dk2 just to show some movements
Remember I weight 110kg...and the simtools settings are wip.

Not a good angle, also looks like the Ujoint does a little rotation, not much but some.
I used headphones so you can check how much noise the jacks does (not much).

Mmm that can be... I will check and if it is originating there I will be forced to add heave .
Anyway, the jacks does their work fine, don't you think?