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I would like to know about a motion sim, that can be built simply

Discussion in 'DIY Motion Simulator Building Q&A / FAQ' started by marc79, Mar 15, 2016.

  1. marc79

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    Hey everyone I am new here, and I been browsing a bit in this community. I wanted to know has anyone ever thought making motion simulator using electric lift technology instead? It would be just like immersit motion sim. If you do not know what Immersit is please check it out on youtube. I really would like to build something like it, Im not trying to build a car or plane sim model just want to add motion to a couch like they were able to do. There were able to make vibration and Motion in there product using some kind of AIr Peumatic air lift bag. If you have any ideas or any input please let me know. Thank you
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    Conceptually, Immersit's product is similar to theater systems like the 4dx. The third-generation prototype (arriving in August) consists of four pneumatic, air-pump activated "feet" that sit under the legs or corners of your sofa or love seat. They're capable of moving independently up to 10cm (four inches), creating pitch (back and forth), roll (side to side) and heave (up and down) motion, along with vibration. The final system will support up to 500 kilograms (1,100 pounds), easily handling the weight of a couch with four people seated.

    A central control module receives "motion code" commands from a laptop or tablet via WiFi to operate the feet in sync with a movie or game, either actively or passively. As with a 4dx sim style, motion-control artists must pre-program any Blu-ray or DVD movie for it to actively sync up with Immersit. For my demo, the company had pre-encoded action sequences from Jurassic Park and Toy Story 2, making the couch move in time with the action. If a movie isn't actively encoded, Immersit can still move your chair passively by matching movement with the audio soundtrack."
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    The OP asked for suggestions on how to make his DIY desire a reality. He showed an example of what he wanted to do. He did not ask for our opinions on pneumatics vs mechanical. Please keep the thread on track.
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    Quit deleting my comments. Pneumatics are not good for motion. They lack the fidelity that we require.
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    If this was true then how come immersit was able to do it. It does not give a powerful but, but it does give motion and that is what I am looking for, plus it probably it more affordable. I already came out with ideas on what parts they are using. Probably will need info on how to make it safe and fluent.
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    Its called dbox actuators. They originally started under home movie chairs. Expensive buggers at over $2-3k each corner. Thats what would be easiest.
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    Oh hang on , I think you mentioned them.
    Now I dont have a link but I recall in the archives I stumbled across some work done with air actuators , I think on a rock n ride frame and being adapted to motion. So yes it would be possible.
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    This will be my last comment here to you as my opinions are apparently too sharp for this audience. It's between 3000 and 4000 dollars from some of the reports I have read.


    Complete D-Box systems start at $8,700.

    How do I know this?....because this isnt my fist day here..

    Here you go...listen to the noise ....

    What you also notice is that he plays music at times,,,,this isnt random,,thats his air compressor filling the tank up.

    and for your inmotion setup there....the smaller the air reservoir,,,the more often the pump runs, the more heat is generated too, the more noise is generated....pneumatics that would be affordable and the control valves are also slower in the deflation as well.
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    I spoke with Valentin Phage about retail cost for the item and it will retail for 1100 USD, There not dbox actuators, I thinking of more like lift air bags since they only lift motion to 4 inches. I will draw out a design tommorrow. Also Immersit and Dbox are not the same company, they are actually competitors
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    So are you planning like a roller coastemr experience or something? Or are you going to play games , race and or flight
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    Shannon you sell motion simulators, I am curious?
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    Rattler yeah I want it for rollercoasters, movies and games.
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    I might agree with you cause the video is loud but if its 4 inches of lift you probably cant hear it that much, wound if I make a sound proof casing for it so it would be more silent. look how much it lifts only 4 inches, so possible can be using air bags with a frame that keep the top part going straight. I wish I was at CES but many did try them out at CES. Lets google for any reviews
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    Sound proofing means less release of heat or the requirement of high speed fans..noise...which means shorter use period on those compressors and compressors become less efficient with heat.
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    so I found this review, but still I would like to make it, just to creat a bit of immersion for VR
    CEO Valentin Fage said it's powered by Immersit's patented system of electric motors, and I thought it needed a little more balancing between power and smoothness. Of course, I could only test it with one piece of content, and perhaps something other than a stiffly-sprung race car would move differently. Back in July Immersit said it could handle a couch loaded with four people, and it's something I'd definitely want to try again before purchasing or passing, especially with a planned price tag of around $1,000.
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    Is there a way I can make something for VR rollercoaster for 1000 USD, I know motors run at good prices on ebay.
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    Sure, How many would you seat? Just one person?
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    From what ive read , a2DOF Dc motor seat mover sim , under $1000 and using VR goggles , you should get good immersion. But thats only for one person.
    I may be new here , however , it may seem you are on a commercial endeavour.
    If however , you can buy this 4 seater lift kit for $1000 and put it under the 4 corners of a lounge , you may be able to some extent control the air a bit more but I suspect it would require custom coding of a device.
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    Rattler for one person for now would be cool will it be able to do right and left motion too?
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    Yes one seat and I will be using Oculus rift