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How to choose potentiometer

Discussion in 'DIY Motion Simulator Building Q&A / FAQ' started by DonCorleonez, Mar 15, 2016.

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  1. DonCorleonez

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    Hi all,

    Been through several projects, until i came up with this question, how to choose potentiometer?180/360 rotation? let say i am using wiper motor, what kinds of condition i should choose 180/360?

    regards
    DonCorleonez, Mar 15, 2016
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  2. RacingMat

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    About potentiometers, here are some clues:

    - 10 kOhm (not less, not more)
    - linear variation (not logarithmic)
    - 360° are not truely "360° electrically": the track is only 340° max
    - some may have mechanical stops: it's safer for the pot itself if it has no stops
    but it's not an issue really

    As the motors are used on a range from 120° to 180° usually
    ► 180° pot is fine if you want simple and direct connection between pot and motor (rigid coupling)
    Rigid-Coupling-CLX-SS.jpg
    ► 360° can be used in conjunction with gears to increase resolution BUT it's more complex mechanically and if gears have some gap, you loose the benefits...
    20150131.jpg
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    Also recommended is to use a hall effect position sensor, also called a non-contact position sensor or non-contact potentiometer. Because the position sensing is magnetic instead of using a physical wiper rubbing on a resistor, they last much longer and have a smoother response. Also they generally don't have a stop to crash into.
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    guys please move this tread to the Q&A (since it is clear short an explicative)

    fer :D
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    Hall effect pots are interesting indeed!
    (apart from the price)

    but just for the record, they are not perfect:
    - they require good voltage supply
    - output range is reduced: 0.4v to 4.8v
    - because the output is digital, you have some jitter in the measure.
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    Yes, go with hall effect pots. In one week both my "conventional" pots "died" after almost a year, and in the last weeks they weren't working well at all, with no precision. The last days you can see the rig moving by itself just turning motors on.

    I bought the TT Electronics 6127V1A180L.5FS too as a replacement.
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    Any problems with Hall Effects pots? In these days i've some problems with conventional pots...
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    I have found Hall sensors to be very reliable and durable. They have excellent fidelity and won't break in a motor runaway.
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    Halls are MORE Than Durable, Lol I locked one up to a point of needing a LARGE pair of pliers to free it up, Added a drop of oil and its been good ever since. Have no fear, halls are here. :grin

    PS thinking back, I actually locked up the same pot twice, Once i got the Flex coupler's on and a Flexible Pot mount, everything went butter smooth.
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  15. bruce stephen

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    I've tried and killed a lot of pots, carbon film, cermet, wirewounds. The halls are by far the most reliable and durable. I use the 360's with gear reduction instead of the 180's direct. The only type that was even close to as smooth and accurate was the bourns. The halls also offer a very low resistance to turning which can help reduce oscillation.
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    @Barry is Bourns 5k not 10k?
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    Yes.

    I asked about pots a long time ago and a few people recommended those ones for me.
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    10K is mandatory with Arduino

    with other setups, maybe 5K is okay: read the specs ;)
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    I wasn't aware of that. I'm using JRKs
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