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News SimTools 2.0 Question and Answer

Discussion in 'News' started by yobuddy, Feb 29, 2016.

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  1. Adrianstealth

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    Hang on I thought this was Xsim , sim tools is not xsim?

    (yes I use simvibe but its support is limited, I'm going to start using another for support for DCS world & maybe a roller coster title etc )
    Adrianstealth, May 17, 2016
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    Xsim and SimTools are two different software.
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  3. Adrianstealth

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    Are they both available here?? Or are they two completely different communities & developers ?
    Adrianstealth, May 17, 2016
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    noorbeast, May 17, 2016
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  5. Adrianstealth

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    Ok thanks I see now, it seems that sim tools is better and simpler to use so I'll give simtools a go

    Hope that 1st release of V2.0 is very close so I can use the vibration output too
    Adrianstealth, May 17, 2016
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    Can't wait for the Bass Shaker funtions~~May i know the Game Vibe funtion is reproduct by audio output (old method) or by other new method?
    Twinsen Yuen, May 17, 2016
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    As a new user Vibration is number one thing sim tools is missing ,
    I was looking for it until I realised it wasn't there
    Adrianstealth, May 20, 2016
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    I pretty much think that the output will be done via audio signals as well. Simply because tactile transducers are always (afaik) triggered via audio signals (technically they're a kind of speaker).

    All the difference is made by the way how those signals are produced: Out of FFB/Game data or just grabbed from the audio output of the game. The 2nd way can easily be done by using a Y-cable but is surely not the best solution. Therefore I'm pretty sure Sim Tools 2.0 will generate the bassshaker output from FFB/Game data.

    Can't wait for it :)
    se041, May 25, 2016
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  10. Twinsen Yuen

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    That mean we need a second sound card for the bass shaker~ I see Sim Vibe must need s PCI-E sound card. Can it achieve by USB sound card?
    Twinsen Yuen, May 25, 2016
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    No, SimVibe does not need a PCI-E sound card. You can also use a two channel 5$ USB Sound Adapter.
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    But sim vibe not support too many games/sims. Wish Simtools can support more games.
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    That's right, to use the FFB/Game data version you'll need a separate sound card for the Bassshakers. Sim Vibe recommends an internal (PCI-E) card, but I read about working USB adapters as well. (Just search the web a bit).

    I personally will wait for sim tools 2.0 before purchasing sim vibe exactly because of the plugins and to check how "easy" it will be to configure.
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    se041, May 25, 2016
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  14. Pit

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    No need for search...I USE SimVibe with different soundcards like USB sound adapters without any issues.
    Pit, May 25, 2016
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    Oh ok - During my research I just found a thread where people were havng problems with some adaptors. So that's why I wasn't sure how good or not good it works. If you tested differtent ones already, that's good to know :)

    cheers
    se041, May 25, 2016
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    Just looking forwards for the games support list~~~
    Twinsen Yuen, May 25, 2016
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  17. Mu-KwangKim

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    Hi. @yobuddy
    I want to buy a Professional license & SimTools 2.0 Beta Testing...
    I sent you to the many times mail, but there was no answer.
    Answer you want. Please.
    Mu-KwangKim, May 25, 2016
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    The same here..I was thinking of buying SimVibe for transducers for my current (static) rig with potential to use it for my next build being seat motion (fingers crossed) but I would go for Pro version of STv2 if the pricing is reasonable (understand not higher than SimVibe) because seeing what this community could achieve is convincing me to believe Shakers support will even/overcome effects by SimVibe in short time.
    drtikol, May 25, 2016
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    I'm not sure how you would drive a bass shaker with anything but a audio signal?
    Anyway, the Game data is the best thing we can drive it with I believe.
    (Using audio data and ffb effects could be grabbed in the game plugin directly I suppose and used, but it would be way inferior I believe)
    And all of our tests with RPM anyway work excellent.

    But with that said, My plan is to finish this app in a public beta.
    I have all of my tests for the app done and even a working test app.
    Now to package it into a great little app!
    And I'm sure people will have ideas along the way.

    The plan is to release SimTools 2.0, and then finish all the companion apps in a public beta's.
    This allows everyone to get started on plugins for 2.0!
    Not to mention, I can't think of a single simulator 2.0 can't support :thumbs
    (New ideas may take a plugin or 2, but the options are pretty much endless!)

    Take Care everyone! :cheers
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    yobuddy, May 28, 2016
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    guys i have a request for new version..... some of us dont use english as a 1st language... so when it comes the moment of configuration of dof (surge, pitch etc) it is a nigtmare... it could be nice to have a small gif animation of reference when configurating, so you can know graphicly what does pitch, surge etc really means in a car or a plane.

    best regards

    fer from mex
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