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Obutto Revolution 2DOF + Traction Loss

Discussion in 'DIY Motion Simulator Projects' started by Brett Horton, Oct 25, 2016.

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  1. Brett Horton

    Brett Horton Active Member

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    RGR thanks!
    Brett Horton, Nov 9, 2016
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  2. Nick Moxley

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    My Motion Simulator:
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    Look forward to seeing some building.....

    PS your PSU's aren't 1000w but rather 850w, seeing as your likely powering them off 110v.
    Nick Moxley, Nov 10, 2016
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  3. Brett Horton

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    Correct on the PSU's
    The only concern I have at this point after seeing the rig in real life.... (drawn in CAD) Is will the whole rig be top heavy under extreme motion? What is the general consensus on width? I can add out riggers easily at this point, and anything else you guys might suggest.
    Here are pictures from today's build....
    20161110_151516.jpg

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    Brett Horton, Nov 10, 2016
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  4. Brett Horton

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    The PSU's are working fine. Here is a picture of my solution for connectors AND bridging the top and bottom contacts.
    I put a slit in the XT90 connectors with a dremel and then soldered them onto the boards. Works like a champ and are good for 90 amp continuous.
    20161110_105206.jpg

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  5. Nick Moxley

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    I highly suggest more than just 2 castor wheels, 2 up front is a wise idea.. Also you'll want to widen your base frame as well. Check out @Avenga76 build....you'll see what i mean about a wider more supportive frame.
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    Nick Moxley, Nov 11, 2016
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  6. Brett Horton

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    Yep, I agree, I was in the middle of this all day... Getting close with the mechanical build portion...

    20161111_144757.jpg 20161111_144805.jpg
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    Brett Horton, Nov 12, 2016
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    Still need to add a couple braces for the front casters, since these pictures, Iv'e added the seat universal stalk.
    Brett Horton, Nov 12, 2016
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  8. Brett Horton

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    I am to the point of deciding what CTC to use on my motors.
    I general read that around 60mm + or - is a good starting point with motors I have.
    What are your thoughts? I have seen the links for the math, but have not seen a link for practical suggestions in the FAQ's.
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    Brett Horton, Nov 12, 2016
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  9. noorbeast

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    60mm should be a reasonable starting point for the chosen motors and design.
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    noorbeast, Nov 12, 2016
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  10. Brett Horton

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    Rgr thanks....
    Also.... I am running my Rift. I still am unsure whether to mount the sensor on the rig (moving with) or make it stationary...
    I can't find a definitive answer for this
    Brett Horton, Nov 12, 2016
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    Personally I am of the view that on a fast small axis movement sim try off the rig.

    On a large axis movement sim there is no real option but mounting the camera on the rig, as there is nor generic way to do motion cancellation. A gyro mount is also needed.
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  12. Brett Horton

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    Thats what I am thinking as well....
    I will initially try off the rig.
    I Build and Fly UAS for a living and have access to all sorts of small gimbals, so that could be an option as well. But just more to add to the mix....
    Hopefully will not have to go that route
    Thanks AGAIN!! for your help sir
    Brett Horton, Nov 12, 2016
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    Great progress today!
    Mechanical almost done, Rig painted, starting electronics final installation tomorrow...
    20161112_101152.jpg 20161112_101201.jpg 20161112_193124.jpg 20161112_193134.jpg 20161112_193141.jpg
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    Brett Horton, Nov 13, 2016
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    Now that has been a quick build so far, well done :thumbs

    I am really looking forward to following the next phase of wiring it all up and eventually seeing your rig in action.
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    noorbeast, Nov 13, 2016
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  15. Brett Horton

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    Yeah, just over 2 days so far.....
    I'm sore and tired... lol
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    I am not surprised, but your planning and preparation have really paid off!
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    noorbeast, Nov 13, 2016
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    could be 1 negative 3 positive and 2 feedback
    or 1 positive 3 negative and 2 feedback.
    wiper is alwawys your feedback line
    pot.png
    pic is from datashheet
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  19. Brett Horton

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    "could be", does not matter ? Sorry not really familiar with pots
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  20. Brett Horton

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    I keep seeing reference to the grounding issues with motors, causing shorts in your other equipment.
    Does this apply to my setup guys?
    Brett Horton, Nov 14, 2016
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