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How can I adjust the seat zero position with SimTools ?

Discussion in 'SimTools DIY Version' started by vsp19, Nov 25, 2016.

  1. vsp19

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    Hello

    How can I adjust the seat zero position with SimTools ?
    or
    How can I set or change the offset of the seat using SimTools ?

    My Motion-System: 2-Dof (SCN6) and SIMEXPIRENCE 4000Box
    vsp19, Nov 25, 2016
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    This entry applies to J12RK

    But I have SCN6 !

    How do I change the zero position of the seat with the SCN6 ?
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    Not sure with an SCN, @nclabs may know.

    You need to put your support request posts in the commercial sim thread, not the general DIY threads, @Historiker can assist in shifting it there.
    noorbeast, Nov 25, 2016
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    To my knowledge there is not a way to do this with Simtools 1.3 so you must make a mechanical adjustment. However, again to my knowledge, I believe from what @yobuddy has stated recently that you will be able to with Simtools 2.0 by simply adding an offset value directly into the output interface.
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    thanks for this information

    When will SimTools 2.0 appear ?

    and what improvements it will have compared to 1.3 ?
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    Zeroing a sim out needs to be done in hardware.
    Somewhere I explained it a bit better but in short, zeroing it in software makes for uneven movements.
    One side will have more movement or since one side can't move as far, the opposite side now need to move less.
    It just makes a lot more sense to just make the adjustments to the rig itself.
    yobuddy
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    Hi @yobuddy. While I mostly agree with your assessment, sometimes you just need to move a seat or platform just a little bit to make it feel how you want it to when in its centered position. But from what you said in another thread, I figured if we can do math now in the output interface string, then to do an offset all that's needed is to add or subtract from the axis output you want to adjust. No?
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    Thanks for the answers and explanations

    This is very helpful for me.

    Too bad you can not change the seat offset by SimTools software.

    In SimComander that goes !

    Because in a Formula vehicle I sit differently like in a Rallyecar
    vsp19, Nov 26, 2016
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  10. yobuddy

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    Here is a link to my old centering post.
    https://www.xsimulator.net/communit...ion-software-simtools.4872/page-10#post-96360
    and what I posted, so you don't have to jump back and forth...

    Basically comes down to getting the most from your simulator.

    @BlazinH,
    Yes, It could be added to a Axis Assignment (math) plugin, or even an interface plugin I suppose.
    Pretty much anything is possible with the SimTools 2.0 plugin system.
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    Just like youbuddy said, it's a lot better to "center" the seat in real life, using the auto centering feature the software does. In this way you don't waste any stroke, and you don't force the software to do strange things.
    nclabs, Nov 28, 2016
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