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MWB 4 DOF Simulator

Discussion in 'DIY Motion Simulator Projects' started by MWB, Aug 29, 2016.

  1. MWB

    MWB Drive it like you stole it!!

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    Hi,

    I have been following this forum for some time now and about to start building my own 2 DOF simulator rig, mainly for Dirt Rally and Assetto Corsa. Though I would start my own Thread. I'm also using an Oculus DK2 so the sim seat should be the icing on the cake!!

    I have but together a test rig (that works) and will post some pic's later.:cheers


    Parts I have so far.

    1x Arduino
    2x IBT-2 43A High power motor driver module BTS7960B
    1x DC 24V 15A 360W Power supply (may need a second depending on current)
    2x 24v 3.3A 110RPM Invacare geared wheelchair motors
    2x 10k Potentiometers
    2x Flexible shaft couplings
    2x Anti roll bar drop links


    Parts I need.

    1x Universal joint
    1x Bucket seat

    I will also need metal to make my frame.

    That's all for now, any help is greatly appreciated :grin

    Mark
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    Hi Mark, looks great. Cheap and functional collection, as you already mentioned the PSU could be too weak to handle current peaks. Wish you success when tinkering your build, thread subscribed ;)
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  3. MWB

    MWB Drive it like you stole it!!

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    Ok so it's been quiet a while since my last post, but I have decided to make some changes to my rig, and am now going to build a 4DOF
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  4. MWB

    MWB Drive it like you stole it!!

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    What realy got things kicked off was finding a pair of Invacare wheelchair motors on eBay, I had been hunting around for windscreen wiper motors for quite some time, but was not convinced that they would be up for the job.
    I have seen some fantastic builds using them but I always planned to go 6DOF at some point and wanted to be able to upgrade. The motors are not perfect for the job but for £50 I'm happy to try and make them work, biggest problem is that there's only one output shaft From the gear box, so it 's going to be a bit tricky fitting the potentiometer to the same shaft as the arm, without the risk of the arm hitting the pot. The motors are 24V 110rpm and I think about 150W all the gears in the gear box are metal and they seem very robust. IMG_3920.JPG
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  5. MWB

    MWB Drive it like you stole it!!

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    Mock up of one of the motors connected to an IBT-2 H-Bridge/UNO R3 Arduino IMG_3279.JPG
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  6. Daguru

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    Hi @MWB good luck with your build and where are you in the uk ?
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    MWB Drive it like you stole it!!

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    Hi @Daguru Thanks, I'm from Egham Surrey. I've been working on this for some time now, been meaning to update my page.
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    MWB Drive it like you stole it!!

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    Last night I managed to pop one of my IBT-2! On closer inspection it seems that one of the tracks underneath the heat sink had burnt out has anyone seen this before? IMG_3922.JPG
    I have my suspicions that I may have put to much voltage into it, after looking it up max input voltage is 27v and I put 28v in
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    Anyway moving forward, I have a spare!! so another thing I noticed was that there was no thermal compound between the board and heat sink. I have a fan on the heat sink but I noticed when it was working that the power chips were running pretty hot. So off to Maplin I go!!
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    Back from Maplin with some goodies!!
    Got some thermal compound
    IMG_3926.JPG
    Also saw some small stick on heat sinks, every little helps!!
    IMG_3928.JPG

    Thought they would be good to stick on the front of the power chips.
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    Yeah I've read first thing you do with those chips is unscrew the heatsink and thermal paste them up :thumbs
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    Upgrade to the IBT-2 all done!
    IMG_3925.JPG IMG_3929.JPG IMG_3930.JPG IMG_3931.JPG hopefully this will make them a bit more robust
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    Quick question, when changing the settings in SCM3, are the settings stored in the IBT-2?
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    No the ardiuno board only the voltage gets passed through the IBT-2
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    Thanks @Daguru seems like a silly question now! lol

    Video of my motor test
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    This was the video that inspired me to build a 4DOF

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    Pics of the test rig I built for two motors, so that I can connect to Simtools with out having the motor roll around the bench.

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  18. Nick Moxley

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  19. Blame73

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    @MWB May I suggest you going straight to the Hall Effect Pots? You know, it's just a matter of time till you're buying them, cause the other pots will die sooner than later and before dying they won't work well and you'll regret you hadn't bought hall effects pots before (happened to me and to a lot of others too...) ;)

    Cheap useless stuff I got rid of:
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  20. Daguru

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    @MWB I agree 110% with @Blame73 cheap pots are great for a base test but before you finish the rig get them ordered and fitted ;)
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