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Cousin of OSW (Open Sim Wheel)

Discussion in 'DIY Motion Simulator Projects' started by Gadget999, Sep 23, 2017.

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  1. Gadget999

    Gadget999 Well-Known Member

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    So today i started a budget Direct Drive wheel project :)

    all of it has been built from parts i have laying about so it has cost me nothing !

    Parts List
    280W 24V DC motor (from an electric go kart) (may be a 350w motor after all)
    IBT-2 h bridge controller
    Arduino Mega
    360 p/r shaft encoder
    Steering wheel (from electric go kart)

    i have got the wheel attached to the motor and have drilled out the back of the motor to attach the shaft encoder

    hope to get it wired up tomorrow and try it out

    next job is to find some arduino code and program the board
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    Nice work. Will be following with interest.
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    My Motion Simulator:
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    just ordered a TM1638 to allow the wheel to display information

    a vid of it here --

    and here
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    My Motion Simulator:
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    i have made some progress with the wheel

    it turns out i needed pull up resistors on the encoder channels and the laptop i was using already had some chip programming software that conflicted with the Arduino leonardo drivers.


    it is a 24v motor that i am running at 12v and already it feels pretty powerful



    i wanted to check i have the correct settings for the pwm

    the options are

    pwm
    pwm+Dir
    pwm +/-
    vnh5019

    I am using a IGBT-2

    i have PWM selected - is this correct ?
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    Some progress :)



    The wheel is set to 180 degrees movement

    The stop is trying to prevent rotation at full movement.

    I have tried the wheel with lfs Live For Speed - but there is no feedback

    What software should i be trying ?

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    Live for speed use Constant force, try using the Constant bar other than 0% (maybe 100% :grin).
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  12. Gadget999

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    My Motion Simulator:
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    It works !

    It works pretty good :)

    So far i have tested it with 12v instead of 24v and at around 8 amps - nowhere near its operating limits

    You can feel quite a lot of feedback with understeer reducing force and the rumblestrips for example.

    So far its the best feedback wheel i have ever tried (i own 6 now !)

    Next step some pedals and paddles/switches etc

    Thank you everyone for your help. The biggest problem was a laptop that would not recognise the board !
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    ok some more progress

    logitech G25 pedals are fitted (with simple brake pedal mod)

    power supply is a 930 w 12volt 77 amps ! power supply from a server £5 from ebay :)

    this wheel is awesome, i have never tested the osw but what i have now is a very powerful direct drive wheel with good feel

    I set the wheel to 180 degrees of movement and turned it to the stop - the strength at the end is very impressive and i was not able to push past this without a large amount of effort and 2 hands ! much more powerful than a real car

    i think i will be turn turning the force down to around 40%

    next job it to tidy up the electronics and wiring and fit it into a nice neat box and fit a 3 phase encoder rather than the 2 phase encoder.
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    Great work, happy it was a success. Where did you net out total cost of you don't mind ?

    Also with the ample torque do you have plans for a full 350mm wheel?
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    My Motion Simulator:
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    No plans for a bigger wheel, this is going to be fitted into a formula 3 carbon fibre tub

    The whole thing has mostly been built from bits i had lying about like the motor and steering wheel. The parts i needed to buy were

    Ibt-2 motor driver £14
    Arduino leonardo £9
    Shaft encoder £12
    Server power supply £5

    A new motor should cost around £30

    The pedals are from a g25, you could reuse a set from any driving wheel.

    The brake pedal is quite ingenuous, you fit a o ring to the plastic body and the pedal becomes a sealed unit requiring more effort the more you push !
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    For members Information. I have this mod, here is the instructional video from 2012 that showed me how to do it.

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    Great shopping list Gadget, thank you for putting that all together like that. I'm assuming this would be a correct motor to buy to follow your footsteps: http://s.aliexpress.com/67J3mAF7
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    yes that is the exact same motor i have - there is a 450w, 500w and 600w version if you wanted to try more power !
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    the wheel got a workout today at full power(and so did I !) and after a while it got quite hot

    i drilled some holes in the front casing to let the heat out

    will give it another go when i find some more time
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    Great thread. Wish you did more "testing". What about 900 degrees of rotation? Drifting mode and how fast motor spins back?
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