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NoLimits Rollercoaster Simulation Plugin 2.0.1.17

SimTools game plugin for NoLimits Rollercoaster Simulation

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  1. Dronneau.Y

    Dronneau.Y Member Gold Contributor

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    Bonjour,

    Aprés avoir telecharger la version demo 2.5.7.1 64 bits sur steam, et installé le plugin 2.01.1.17 puis activé la telemetrie sur steam, je n'obtient aucuns mouvement, avez vous une piste?
    cordialement
    Dronneau.Y, Sep 24, 2019
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  2. value1

    value1 Nerd SimAxe Beta Tester SimTools Developer Gold Contributor

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    NLR does not output telemetry in the demo version.
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    value1, Sep 24, 2019
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  3. Dronneau.Y

    Dronneau.Y Member Gold Contributor

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    Ok, merci de la réponse rapide, il ne me reste plus qu'a envisager l'achat!!
    Dronneau.Y, Sep 24, 2019
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  4. noorbeast

    noorbeast VR Tassie Devil Staff Member Moderator Race Director

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    Please be aware that you can dual language post but it is part of the Forum Rules that you also include English, doing so via Google Translate is fine: https://www.xsimulator.net/community/threads/forum-rules.9527/
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    noorbeast, Sep 25, 2019
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  5. hannibal

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    axis behavior is weird in this game...
    anyone 6dof would share game engine axis settings?
    :)
    should yaw be yaw, or should yaw be extra3?
    hannibal, Dec 14, 2019
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    noorbeast VR Tassie Devil Staff Member Moderator Race Director

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    Yaw is rotation around a central point and while it is supported in the plugin I can't image a rollercoaster that spins around a central point (tight turns/short wheelbase single carriage maybe?), so have never used it. Extra 1 is often used for traction loss, I can't see that as supported in the plugin summary and again can't imagine a rollercoaster that has traction loss type motion.
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    noorbeast, Dec 14, 2019
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  7. value1

    value1 Nerd SimAxe Beta Tester SimTools Developer Gold Contributor

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    Indeed, the angles of the NLS plugin are crap in certain circumstances. This has to do with the math for the angle calculation.
    I wasn't able to fix it and the angles are therefore sometimes completely wrong upload_2019-12-15_19-40-51.png
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    value1, Dec 15, 2019
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  8. hannibal

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    no, this is better than nothing.
    most appreciate that this is available to mess around with and the effort that went along with it.
    have to say thank you!
    hannibal, Dec 15, 2019
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  9. Leandro Kemp

    Leandro Kemp Active Member Gold Contributor

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    Hello.
    Oculus home version and Oculus Quest version works with the --telemetry option?
    Is there any other option?
    In the Steam version it works perfectly.
    Tank you.
    Leandro Kemp, Jul 22, 2020
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  10. Metaverum

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    Does this work with NoLimits 2 professional license?
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  11. paulopsx2

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    YES
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    paulopsx2, Dec 6, 2020
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  12. Moe Colontonio

    Moe Colontonio Member Gold Contributor

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    Working great for me on my 5dof. Is there a way to get my bass shakers to work with NL2?
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    noorbeast, Jan 31, 2021
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  14. Moe Colontonio

    Moe Colontonio Member Gold Contributor

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    I installed the SimVibe plugin, and I setup the sound card. When I test the transducers, they work, but I get no vibration in game. Not really sure how to troubleshoot this. I did reinstall the plugin and unpatch/patch.
    Moe Colontonio, Feb 6, 2021
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  15. Moe Colontonio

    Moe Colontonio Member Gold Contributor

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    Disregard, I did not select "Enable Vibe". It's working now!
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  16. dontcarefilmer

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    I may have a solution for this problem, but I think I'll need your help to build it. I too found the angles calculated with the telemetry to be off when reaching full inversion. So to find out why, I expanded an application I'm working on to also capture the NL2 telemetry and graph the results (using the example maths from the install folder). Then I tried a whole bunch of other configurations and calculations and compared them to the NL calcs. It finally worked (I think).

    https://drive.google.com/file/d/1eQF4XCXG6avXmQVe0LNWW-42gwTQ59Vd/view?usp=sharing

    The graph in the link above was captured whilst on the double loop double corkscrew track. Light green and red are the original NL calculations, dark green and red are my new ones (using the same quaternion inputs qw, qx, qy, qz). You can see the first pair of loops where the pitch angle goes from 180° to -180° twice, plus the corkscrew afterwards. The time axis is a history kind of line, not a timestamp from starting point, the graph updates from the right and moves old data points to the left.

    What I can't do though is write a plugin to test this out...
    I can pass on the calculations for someone else to make a plugin, or I could alter the source plugin if the author felt comfortable sharing it. Whatever works for you guys, what do you think?
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    dontcarefilmer, Mar 25, 2021
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  17. Moe Colontonio

    Moe Colontonio Member Gold Contributor

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    When you guys setup simtools for motion on this, are you banking the rig into the turn, or away from the turn? Most of the rollercoasters have banked turns, so I'd think into the turn would be the better option?
    Moe Colontonio, Mar 25, 2021
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  18. paulopsx2

    paulopsx2 Active Member

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    well, i think this is only a plugin. old plugin. None of us have a perfect maths or experience on roller coasters.
    in fact, dof simulators dont have 360 angles and turns. so, plugin its made for fun and in some cases, not for real.
    paulopsx2, Mar 28, 2021
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  19. MarkusB

    MarkusB Well-Known Member Gold Contributor

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    In a real rollercoaster the car is banking into the turn, but at the same time your body is pressed outwards.
    In a usual 2 DOF simulator you only have the roll axis for simulating roll and sway. When focusing on roll, you would bank into the turn, and when focusing on sway, it would be away from the turn. When configuring roll AND sway onto the roll axis, you would have two competing movements that would compensate esch other.

    About your question: I agree with you that banking into the turn feels more natural.

    Edit: I just sae that your rig includes a g-seat. That means you can bank into the turn for supporting the roll mevement and configure the g-seat paddles for the sway force by applying pressure with the outer paddle.
    MarkusB, Mar 28, 2021
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  20. Moe Colontonio

    Moe Colontonio Member Gold Contributor

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    Man I wish, my G-Seat is running on SimCommander so I'm stuck using the plugins they have, which are very limited. Can't figure out how to get it running with SimTools.
    Moe Colontonio, Mar 29, 2021
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