1. Do not share user accounts! Any account that is shared by another person will be blocked and closed. This means: we will close not only the account that is shared, but also the main account of the user who uses another person's account. We have the ability to detect account sharing, so please do not try to cheat the system. This action will take place on 04/18/2023. Read all forum rules.
    Dismiss Notice
  2. For downloading SimTools plugins you need a Download Package. Get it with virtual coins that you receive for forum activity or Buy Download Package - We have a zero Spam tolerance so read our forum rules first.

    Buy Now a Download Plan!
  3. Do not try to cheat our system and do not post an unnecessary amount of useless posts only to earn credits here. We have a zero spam tolerance policy and this will cause a ban of your user account. Otherwise we wish you a pleasant stay here! Read the forum rules
  4. We have a few rules which you need to read and accept before posting anything here! Following these rules will keep the forum clean and your stay pleasant. Do not follow these rules can lead to permanent exclusion from this website: Read the forum rules.
    Are you a company? Read our company rules

Showroom My Diy 2dof RC test then 2dof wiper motor diary

Discussion in 'DIY Motion Simulator Projects' started by Krzysztof Dej, Jan 1, 2021.

  1. Krzysztof Dej

    Krzysztof Dej Active Member

    Joined:
    Jun 3, 2020
    Messages:
    311
    Location:
    Poland
    Balance:
    1,086Coins
    Ratings:
    +73 / 0 / -0
    My Motion Simulator:
    2DOF
    Ok my shop list:

    - Power supply HP ATSN-7000956-Y000 700W 411077-001 412211-001 do

    - some used wiper motors (i don't know if all available are compatible)

    - two BTS7960-Modules

    - Arduino uno

    - two pots

    I will try complete my parts and do something like this :https://www.xsimulator.net/community/threads/diy-2dof-simulator.4793/
    Or this : https://www.xsimulator.net/community/threads/my-2dof-motion-add-on-for-playseat-evolution.13918/
    So wish me luck :)
    And this is it for now

    I found good things to read so I start learning
    https://www.xsimulator.net/community/threads/a-beginner-dreams-of-2dof.15703/
    Last edited: Jan 7, 2021
  2. noorbeast

    noorbeast VR Tassie Devil Staff Member Moderator Race Director

    Joined:
    Jul 13, 2014
    Messages:
    21,148
    Occupation:
    Innovative tech specialist for NGOs
    Location:
    St Helens, Tasmania, Australia
    Balance:
    148,584Coins
    Ratings:
    +10,906 / 54 / -2
    My Motion Simulator:
    3DOF, DC motor, JRK
  3. Krzysztof Dej

    Krzysztof Dej Active Member

    Joined:
    Jun 3, 2020
    Messages:
    311
    Location:
    Poland
    Balance:
    1,086Coins
    Ratings:
    +73 / 0 / -0
    My Motion Simulator:
    2DOF
    Ok I'm waiting for my stuff to come and wondering where to place wiper motors on front or in the back. I thing in front i can make my 2dof seat less wight. Am I right?


    Does the feeling and immersion r the same?
  4. noorbeast

    noorbeast VR Tassie Devil Staff Member Moderator Race Director

    Joined:
    Jul 13, 2014
    Messages:
    21,148
    Occupation:
    Innovative tech specialist for NGOs
    Location:
    St Helens, Tasmania, Australia
    Balance:
    148,584Coins
    Ratings:
    +10,906 / 54 / -2
    My Motion Simulator:
    3DOF, DC motor, JRK
    Wiper motors are not particularly powerful, so you want to have plenty of inherent design leverage, so a shoulder of foot mount would be best. Wiper motors are not really suited to a compact design, as that requires lots of torque.

    Have a play with SimCal, that will give you some idea as to the tradeoff between design and physics: https://www.xsimulator.net/communit...e-linear-speed-and-forces-of-your-design.270/
    • Friendly Friendly x 1
  5. Krzysztof Dej

    Krzysztof Dej Active Member

    Joined:
    Jun 3, 2020
    Messages:
    311
    Location:
    Poland
    Balance:
    1,086Coins
    Ratings:
    +73 / 0 / -0
    My Motion Simulator:
    2DOF
    ok i done some calc and i see whenn i put motors to the front my Pitch efficiency fall to the 9%. i dont want to have big forces but this looks like i must change my idea and put motors to the back

    Attached Files:

  6. Krzysztof Dej

    Krzysztof Dej Active Member

    Joined:
    Jun 3, 2020
    Messages:
    311
    Location:
    Poland
    Balance:
    1,086Coins
    Ratings:
    +73 / 0 / -0
    My Motion Simulator:
    2DOF
    Ok little break but covid times and snow falling and school break making me doing something else. Now I have my parts and tomarrow I will try make my wiper be ground isolated. Keep finger cross beacuse i will not step this out :)

    Attached Files:

    • Like Like x 1
  7. Krzysztof Dej

    Krzysztof Dej Active Member

    Joined:
    Jun 3, 2020
    Messages:
    311
    Location:
    Poland
    Balance:
    1,086Coins
    Ratings:
    +73 / 0 / -0
    My Motion Simulator:
    2DOF
    So @noorbeast what execly i must do with this wiper? I have 2 parts : motor and gear shaft.
    Motor cover is isolated with gearshift by bolt washer but I saw i must take cover and ground some parts to the cover. Can u help me with some links?
  8. noorbeast

    noorbeast VR Tassie Devil Staff Member Moderator Race Director

    Joined:
    Jul 13, 2014
    Messages:
    21,148
    Occupation:
    Innovative tech specialist for NGOs
    Location:
    St Helens, Tasmania, Australia
    Balance:
    148,584Coins
    Ratings:
    +10,906 / 54 / -2
    My Motion Simulator:
    3DOF, DC motor, JRK
  9. Krzysztof Dej

    Krzysztof Dej Active Member

    Joined:
    Jun 3, 2020
    Messages:
    311
    Location:
    Poland
    Balance:
    1,086Coins
    Ratings:
    +73 / 0 / -0
    My Motion Simulator:
    2DOF

    Attached Files:

  10. noorbeast

    noorbeast VR Tassie Devil Staff Member Moderator Race Director

    Joined:
    Jul 13, 2014
    Messages:
    21,148
    Occupation:
    Innovative tech specialist for NGOs
    Location:
    St Helens, Tasmania, Australia
    Balance:
    148,584Coins
    Ratings:
    +10,906 / 54 / -2
    My Motion Simulator:
    3DOF, DC motor, JRK
    I am guessing your wiper motors may have a number of wires for high and low speed, is that correct?

    If so high speed is what you are interested in.
  11. Krzysztof Dej

    Krzysztof Dej Active Member

    Joined:
    Jun 3, 2020
    Messages:
    311
    Location:
    Poland
    Balance:
    1,086Coins
    Ratings:
    +73 / 0 / -0
    My Motion Simulator:
    2DOF
    OK how I check this which I high speed :)?
  12. noorbeast

    noorbeast VR Tassie Devil Staff Member Moderator Race Director

    Joined:
    Jul 13, 2014
    Messages:
    21,148
    Occupation:
    Innovative tech specialist for NGOs
    Location:
    St Helens, Tasmania, Australia
    Balance:
    148,584Coins
    Ratings:
    +10,906 / 54 / -2
    My Motion Simulator:
    3DOF, DC motor, JRK
    Connect the motor up to a battery, it should be pretty obvious which is high and low speed via its RPM.
  13. Krzysztof Dej

    Krzysztof Dej Active Member

    Joined:
    Jun 3, 2020
    Messages:
    311
    Location:
    Poland
    Balance:
    1,086Coins
    Ratings:
    +73 / 0 / -0
    My Motion Simulator:
    2DOF
    I found a wiper motor grounding tutorial on youtobe. Is any good?
  14. Krzysztof Dej

    Krzysztof Dej Active Member

    Joined:
    Jun 3, 2020
    Messages:
    311
    Location:
    Poland
    Balance:
    1,086Coins
    Ratings:
    +73 / 0 / -0
    My Motion Simulator:
    2DOF
    Wiper motor grounding complete

    Attached Files:

    • Winner Winner x 1
  15. Krzysztof Dej

    Krzysztof Dej Active Member

    Joined:
    Jun 3, 2020
    Messages:
    311
    Location:
    Poland
    Balance:
    1,086Coins
    Ratings:
    +73 / 0 / -0
    My Motion Simulator:
    2DOF
    Now I will try to make pot connection the motor but on the other side. I must make hole like m6 maybe and pin to connect with pot.
    I wonder if anyone make it like me. Maybe someone make pot holder do wiper motor on 3d printer?

    Attached Files:

  16. Krzysztof Dej

    Krzysztof Dej Active Member

    Joined:
    Jun 3, 2020
    Messages:
    311
    Location:
    Poland
    Balance:
    1,086Coins
    Ratings:
    +73 / 0 / -0
    My Motion Simulator:
    2DOF
    The grounding cable put outside and isolate from the rest or connect somehow?
    Can U help me with the pots how connect them?

    Attached Files:

  17. absyfadhel1

    absyfadhel1 Member

    Joined:
    Oct 19, 2017
    Messages:
    329
    Location:
    bahrain
    Balance:
    442Coins
    Ratings:
    +32 / 0 / -0
    My Motion Simulator:
    2DOF, Arduino
    "MAYBE"..the middle one must be the control one and left is gnd and right the 5v.....
    • Friendly Friendly x 1
  18. noorbeast

    noorbeast VR Tassie Devil Staff Member Moderator Race Director

    Joined:
    Jul 13, 2014
    Messages:
    21,148
    Occupation:
    Innovative tech specialist for NGOs
    Location:
    St Helens, Tasmania, Australia
    Balance:
    148,584Coins
    Ratings:
    +10,906 / 54 / -2
    My Motion Simulator:
    3DOF, DC motor, JRK
    I am not sure I understand what you mean, could you please explain a bit more.

    If the wiper motor is ground isolated the case is not live when in operation, which you can check with a test light.

    If you mean the ground wire for the pot then that goes to the Arduino, if that is what you are using. In which case it would be helpful to know what motor driver you are going to use, so we can advise on the correct wiring.
  19. Krzysztof Dej

    Krzysztof Dej Active Member

    Joined:
    Jun 3, 2020
    Messages:
    311
    Location:
    Poland
    Balance:
    1,086Coins
    Ratings:
    +73 / 0 / -0
    My Motion Simulator:
    2DOF
    I find brush connected to the body cut it and solded to the brush as tutorial says but this cable connected to the brush is outside the body and where it goes?

    Attached Files:

  20. Krzysztof Dej

    Krzysztof Dej Active Member

    Joined:
    Jun 3, 2020
    Messages:
    311
    Location:
    Poland
    Balance:
    1,086Coins
    Ratings:
    +73 / 0 / -0
    My Motion Simulator:
    2DOF
    I will use Hbridge BTS7960B 43A