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Gforcefactory Edge 6d

Discussion in 'Commercial Simulators and Peripherie' started by PetroVitallini, Sep 9, 2018.

  1. SeatTime

    SeatTime Well-Known Member

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    Nice sim setup :thumbs. Does the system have a type of 'spike filter' so that you can keep the motion sensitivity up without the motion becoming too real in a crash/impact?
  2. SeatTime

    SeatTime Well-Known Member

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    My Motion Simulator:
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    I initially had some sagging issues with my setup (3 x 50 inch), but got around it and other setup issues by modifying the standard monitor kit so that it was better supported and I could micro-adjust for all axis's.
    NewScreensetup7.jpg
    I can also highly recommend a 'booth' for our types of setups, as it really helps with the immersion. I originally tested with 32 inch monitors, but found that they needed to be too close to me for the best FOV and hindered ingress with my rig setup.
  3. BigC208

    BigC208 New Member Gold Contributor

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    There probably is a way to filter or tone down things a bit but been too busy at work. Haven’t had time to dig deep into the software. Once things slow down I’m going to adjust or make custom profiles to my liking.
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  4. BigC208

    BigC208 New Member Gold Contributor

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    That’s why I went with the 32’s. With the 42’s I could’ve boxed myself in and still get in and out. With 50’s s not so much. I really liked the quality of the LG C42’s and might get back to those once I figure out how to reinforce the monitor stand. For now the 32’s will have to do. I sim mostly at night and you don’t notice the area around the setup.
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  5. TomSawyer2112

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    I'm retired, not a youthful hot rod ;) and I don't agree with flight simulation at the default level of 35% travels too quickly.
    There has been an outstanding recent firmware upgrade, 3.6, that enables for even higher, more powerful settings without experiencing false cues. I use racing sims at roughly 40%, and flight sims maybe 50%. It makes me consider more about my flying techniques. In really intensive sim environments, the motion remains exceptionally safe with no need for seat belts.
    However, rollercoasters may be quite scary in VR now, but only for first time users.

    20% feels like hardly any cues at all; I never pressed the emergency button. I believe the platform now shines brilliantly in racing sims, as it rarely reaches its full potential in flight simulators.
    However, if the platform must rotate quickly from one full side to the opposite side, with two enormous monitors set up so wide that they resemble wings, additional inertia may be felt due to the weights being transferred. Lift 10x 1kg with your hands close to your shoulders, and do the same with your arms stretched, you will understand. A monitor weights around 10kg.
    I've positioned my side screens as close to the central point of rotation as possible. It is simply a matter of adjusting their power consumption to control how much heat they emit. They don't need maximum brightness or game mode, as you rarely look at them directly for longer moments.
    In the winter, heat is welcome; in the summer, it can get a little too warm. A wind simulator may provide a constant adjustable pleasant breeze, but mine is not dynamically supported in flight simulators through simhub.

    I suppose the discomfort caused by power levels above 20-25 is due to the open rig. The user should feel the motion with Gforces, but not see it. If the rig is open, our peripheral views continue to detect moving edges on the wall and ceiling, unless it is completely in a dark room. This is a major concern.The brain cannot comprehend the movement on and off the screen. The entire simulation attempt ends up spoilt.

    I build myself a cover that converts the set up into a closed cockpit. It is fairly simple to make with some light wooden strips and a black weed fleece for around €20. The company sells its own cover up to ground level, which costs roughly 2000€. I was also concerned about heat dissipation from the display's panels. The fleece is adequately air permeable, so there is no problem with heat.
  6. TomSawyer2112

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    Here is my final setup after 2 years :

    Cockpit cover with light wooden strips (black taped) and a black weed fleece
    All instruments for flight and racing together.

    Flight instruments in a more back seat postion.
    Flight Pedals placeable in front of Racing Pedals
    2 foldable DIY platforms for mouse and keyboard for flight sims

    A tension belt DIY method in relation of the platforms motion
    A bezel-free triple screens DIY method for any sizes (mirror effect)
    A wind sim (only adaptable within Simhub)
    A bass-shaker under the seat for engine vibrations and road surface simulation
    A bass-shaker under the racing pedals, for tires losing grip (abs, locks, skids)
    Ipad Phone holder left & right

    It leaves no wish open
    (except flightsims should be supported by Simhub to simulate Wind)

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  7. Aerosmith

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    Your rig and cockpit looks really nice.:thumbsI fully agree that the cockpit should be closed so you can't see anything of the outside world moving relatively to the simulation world reference. A leightweight "wire frame" covered with fabric or foil should do.

    Can you explain a bit more how this works?
  8. TomSawyer2112

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    About the cover, I think it should be noiseless material, that is why I choose wood and weed fleece,
    because the monitors tend to flap a little on the outer edges, which can cause annoying screeching sounds.

    About my bezel free idea, I made a short video here, with a written explanation.
    .

    I used wood strips, a double sided tape to fix it to the monitor,
    and a mirror wallpaper to fix on both sides of the wood strips.
    Set in a right 90° angle to the center and side monitors, it reflects the screen and makes the black frame disappear.

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  9. Aerosmith

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    Very good idea! Thanks for sharing. :thumbs