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SimTools v3 Public Beta

Discussion in 'Tutorials and Tips by the Developer' started by yobuddy, Sep 26, 2022.

  1. Djalma Ribeiro

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    Even after uninstalling everything and installing everything again I still have no movement.

    Dirt 2 remains the only one that works. AC and AMS2 is not moving.
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  2. yobuddy

    yobuddy Well-Known Member Staff Member Moderator SimAxe Beta Tester SimTools Developer Gold Contributor

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    Yes, I'm actually working on this right now, trying to figure out why this is happening.
    If you adjust it a bit, it seems to work just fine from there.
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    yobuddy Well-Known Member Staff Member Moderator SimAxe Beta Tester SimTools Developer Gold Contributor

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    First, check that you can Test Settings of your interface settings.
    upload_2023-4-4_9-57-16.png
    Do your interface's work?
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    yobuddy Well-Known Member Staff Member Moderator SimAxe Beta Tester SimTools Developer Gold Contributor

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    @930175620,
    You may want to use Roll, Pitch and Yaw velocity outputs, but that looks good man.
    I suggest opening the 3D Linear Virtual Window
    https://simtools.us/plugin/?varname=293&color=0e97dd

    With the 3D Linear Virtual Window open, test your axis settings and adjust them so you don't get any 'Out of Range' errors. Once you are done, you are golden to play the game.
    From there, you can adjust the Min/Max settings in tuning center for feel.
    (note that plane games have settings for both in the air and on the runway.)
    upload_2023-4-4_10-5-59.png

    You can click the cloud/runway to switch between the two settings.
    Chat soon,
    yobuddy
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  5. Mu-KwangKim

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    @yobuddy
    Can't add a actuator (motor?) speed value to the filter?

    I think it would be good to be able to adjust the speed and acceleration values for each axis.

    In the case of SCN, I could adjust it on the interface, but it was inconvenient because I couldn't adjust it by games.

    I'm making it with a different actuator right now, so it's a shame that there's no such setting.

    If you can adjust it in the filter item at all, you can make a lot of different & nice settings.
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    The SCN's have a speed and acceleration hardware value for their actuators.
    (No other hardware that I know of have these settings)

    There could be a speed and acceleration filter of some sort in a axis plugin.
    There is really nothing stopping us from doing so.
    By adjusting the Min/Max settings for the profile thou, you can completely control the feeling you get from the profile.
    Chat soon,
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    I better uninstall version 2?
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    Ok, now install the plugin you want to play, or un-install and then re-install the plugin you want to play.
    Then goto the motion section and setup your axis assignments for the game.
    And when done click save and hit Test Settings.
    upload_2023-4-4_12-19-43.png
    Do you get some motion?

    No it can be installed, that's ok.
    But its best to only play a game with either v3 Or v2, but not both.
    (some plugins have been upgraded for 3v and may not patch the same way as v2)
    Chat soon,
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    Yes, everything moves correctly, but during the game no movement.

    AMS2:
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    Reducing the Intensity Level value in the 2.x ver Game Manager also slows down the motion speed.

    Can't we put that function in the filter??

    There are areas where setting is not possible with only min/max setting.

    If can implement partial slow motion, Can have a very good setup in a multi-axis structure.
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    I think it may make more sense to add more weight to the current intensity filter we have now (this is planned), but maybe also increase the smoothing filter strength if needed.

    Have you tried the smoothing filter?
    It may need it's weight adjusted, but it should do what you want I think.
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    Are you double clicking the game banners play button?
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    Yes!

    I think I found the problem. It seems to me that the Moza R9 software was causing some conflict.

    I went into the SimTools V3 settings and set the CPU priority to High and it seems to have helped. But then it stopped moving.

    For it to work I need to close the Moza app.

    https://support.mozaracing.com/en/support/solutions/articles/70000628772
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    @Djalma Ribeiro that makes sense. the Fanalab software for Fanatec wheels causes the same issue as well for a lot of games I have tried. If I have the Fanalab software open BEFORE I open SimTools, then I get no motion in game (assuming because its taken over the port tata that Simtools is looking for).
    But if I open Simtools FIRST and confirm I have motion in the game, I can then open the Fanalab app without issue. I mention it incase you want to still open your Monza app, try doing it after you have simTools opened and motion confirmed within the game.
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    SimTools updated with the intensity slider fixed. :thumbs
    (For profiles already created, simply move the slider a bit to fix)
    Prepar 3D, fsx and msf2020 plugins all updated so they know how to install their required SimConnect files.

    Prepar 3D is now confirmed working. :cheers
    (Simply remove the current plugin, restart simtools, and re-install the plugin and you should be good to go!)
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    My ROLL and Sway are opposite to Virtual Output in reality. Even after I click DIR, they are still the opposite. I use THANOS, my settings are as follows. What is the order of Simtools 3D LINEAR?
    3.png 2.png 1.png
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    here you go buddy.[​IMG]