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Astur-SIM. Cheap DIY 2DOF

Discussion in 'DIY Motion Simulator Projects' started by Mario_Grao, Nov 3, 2023.

  1. Mario_Grao

    Mario_Grao New Member Gold Contributor

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    Hello everyone:

    My intention is to build a simple and cheap 2DOF simulator.

    This is my first simulator, so the main objective is to learn and improve myself and all with the tightest budget possible.

    That's why I will use the materials I have on hand, second-hand accessories and make as much as possible myself.
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    A budget build is a great place to start!

    You will find plenty of helpful information in the FAQs: http://www.xsimulator.net/community/faq/

    In particular check out the Design section: https://www.xsimulator.net/community/faq/design-considerations-resources.24/category

    Use the Enhanced Google Search on the Recent page to find projects of interest to study: https://www.xsimulator.net/community/find-new/posts?recent=1

    If something sounds odd then look it up in the glossary: http://www.xsimulator.net/community/faq/glossary-of-acronyms-and-names.66/

    I look forward to following your project build.
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    OK. Thanks for the links.

    I have been reading for a long time, but the information so resumed is much better

    The first thing will be to design and build the cokpit and since I have a cnc router, which is also another DIY project that I did a few years ago, I will design and build it in plywood and using a design that allows me to facilitate the tongue-and-groove manufacturing of the parts. parts. Therefore I will make my own design taking ideas from the website https://opensimracing.com/ and adapting it as necessary. IMG-20231103-WA0013.jpg IMG-20231103-WA0012.jpg

    Then I will make the cnc files and the cutting simulation. IMG-20231103-WA0011.jpg
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    The first photos in previous post show the cokpit used as inspiration and this one shows the final design with the requirements that I needed, but maintaining general dimensions of the previous one.

    IMG-20231103-WA0010.jpg

    This design minimizes weight, has dimensions adapted to my cutting machine and a more compact design, because I don't have too much space at home either.
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    After receiving the two windshield wiper motors from a BMW 330, coming from a car scrapyard,
    IMG-20231103-WA0009.jpg
    the next step is to eliminate the ground connection to prevent them from short-circuiting each other during operation.
    This will fry the H-Bridge modules
    The connection of the brush that is attached to the motor chassis is canceled and the one that generates the fast speed is located IMG-20231103-WA0006.jpg IMG-20231103-WA0007.jpg
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    After receiving all the electronic components, I mount them on a wooden plate to check the correct operation and verify the connection with the software.

    First, load the code onto the arduino board. First has to be edited indicating mode 2 since I will be using H bridges. Imagen de WhatsApp 2023-11-17 a las 17.53.02_781d8c22.jpg
    Then assemble the whole set, using an old PC source, which will not be the final one, since the voltage it supplies is just 12 v and these motors are able to withstand a little more voltage and with it would provide a little more power.

    Let's remember that in the car they work around 14 v and do not cause problems.

    One of the motors didn't work well because stripping the wire, I almost cut the wires and the weld didn't make good contact, but I discovered it and solved it by soldering it again. Remember, they are very thin wires and you have to be careful. Imagen de WhatsApp 2023-11-17 a las 17.52.49_7edeb8d2.jpg

    I have checked that there is no thermal paste in the h-bridge. So, a bit will be added later Imagen de WhatsApp 2023-11-17 a las 17.53.02_775360ce.jpg
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    I got a seat from an old citroen C2, (it needs a bit of cleaning LOL, but no problem¡)
    asiento.jpg
    so I redesigned the structure and removed the wooden backrest, which will no longer be necessary.
    I've also lowered the anchor height to compensate for the extra seat height
    IMG-20231103-WA0010 editado.jpg
    With the new design finalized I can now start the cut using 15 mm thick plywood
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  8. aparecido

    aparecido diy 2dof for flight simulator 2020

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    Good afternoon, with a 10k potentiometer it is also good, I know that the common potentiometer has a premature lifespan, but does it work the same as a hall sensor?
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    Both can provide position, but a Hall Sensor is not damaged by being over rotated, has a long service life and provides great position resolution, the down side is that a Hall Sensor is more expensive than a 10k pot.
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    Good evening, thank you very much for the information.
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    Imagen de WhatsApp 2023-11-20 a las 09.26.53_b55ab8b0.jpg Imagen de WhatsApp 2023-11-20 a las 09.26.54_769d5fb5.jpg IMG_20231129_210102.jpg IMG_20231129_210109.jpg IMG_20231129_210119.jpg IMG_20231129_210342.jpg IMG_20231129_210401.jpg
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    Next step is steel base for the whole device.
    I´ll use some recycled steel from an old ping pong table and a cardan Joint from Amazon (18 €)
    Still missing some reinforcements, adjustable feet, small wood shelve and paint.
    Picture showss just the beginning.
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    Because I can't dedicate as much time to it as I want, progress is slower than expected. I have already finished the basic metal structure of the support and although it is still missing the feet, the supports for the motors and the shelves, Imagen de WhatsApp 2023-12-05 a las 20.08.45_9bd61795.jpg Imagen de WhatsApp 2023-12-05 a las 20.08.44_a757233e.jpg Imagen de WhatsApp 2023-12-05 a las 20.08.45_0b165b91.jpg Imagen de WhatsApp 2023-12-05 a las 20.08.44_a757233e.jpg
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    I have already been able to assemble the complete set in a preliminary manner. Now it's time to start sanding and painting the structure and final configuration of the electronics before joining it to the final assembly. Imagen de WhatsApp 2023-12-06 a las 21.24.31_62521acd.jpg
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    How well do the wiper motors cope with moving the rig, which I am guessing has a fair amount of mass?
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    I haven't tried connecting it dodo together yet.
    The wood is very light and I'm not afraid of it. But the seat is quite heavy and it may have been a mistake to incorporate it.
    Anyway I'll play around with the length of the crank and the distance to the center of turn to reduce the necesary torque .
    If it still doesn't work well, I'll replace the seat with a much lighter wooden backrest and i´ll have to move the cardan to balance the whole assy again.
    I'll keep you posted when I get more progress.
    Best regards
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    HI.¡
    having into acount noorbeast coments new back resthas been designed
    upload_2023-12-20_18-32-9.png

    I will cut it jus in case car seat be too heavy for my wiper motors. As I said I will try to hack my atx power supply to give 14 volts or more.
    Some similar models work in such configuration, so i will try it

    BR
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    Next step a bit of paint.
    "Rosso Corsa"¡¡ of course.
    It starts to look something like a rig¡¡ Imagen de WhatsApp 2023-12-20 a las 17.31.31_1acfa9d9.jpg Imagen de WhatsApp 2023-12-20 a las 17.31.31_45194160.jpg Imagen de WhatsApp 2023-12-20 a las 17.31.32_7fe4dc6b.jpg
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    Goodo Morning every one.
    In order to be able to assemble the components together I will use wing nuts, instead of hex screws. This will allow you to adjust the ergonomics of the rig on the fly without the help of tools.
    To save cost I will make them myself using leftover wood scraps, cut on the cnc machine and incorporating threaded inserts. Imagen de WhatsApp 2023-12-20 a las 17.31.31_428d8f56.jpg Imagen de WhatsApp 2023-12-20 a las 17.31.31_c3bcbb7c.jpg
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    Washers glued to nuts and Imagen de WhatsApp 2023-12-21 a las 21.39.55_204bca4a.jpg Imagen de WhatsApp 2023-12-21 a las 21.39.54_e7ab2a44.jpg Imagen de WhatsApp 2023-12-21 a las 21.39.54_c9d03a7e.jpg and nuts already assembled, ready for paint ¡¡
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