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220V Motors?

Discussion in 'DIY Motion Simulator Building Q&A / FAQ' started by Rumpelbube, Dec 13, 2024.

  1. Rumpelbube

    Rumpelbube New Member

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    Hi all.
    I am actually building my first motionrig. Seen some tutorials and started with 12V wipermotors. It works so far. But I have two 220V Motors from big Garagedoors laying around and I am wondering if I can make any use of them in the motionrig. I tested them. When I connect brown and blue it moves in one direction. With one of the black and the blue cable it turns in the other direction. Can I make thes3 motors work?
    1. What motor drivers will be used for 220v, if possible?
    2. Can it be done with a relay modul?
    3. Helpfull links?
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  2. Aerosmith

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    This is a reversable AC motor with starter capacitor. It is meant for running at constant speed so unfortunatelly it's not suitable for driving a motion rig.
    Yesterday I accidentally found theese incredibly cheap industrial servo motors. They are 103€ for a whole set of motor, driver and cables. For that price it no longer makes sense to use wheelchair or wiper motors. Those are only ~$30 but you need a driver, a feedback hall sensor and an arduino to make them work. Not to mention the countless hours to program and wire it and the headache until it performs the way it should.
  3. Attyla.pl

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    Aerosmith question what controller for the engines you have linked ?
  4. Aerosmith

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    @Attyla.pl I'm not sure if I understand your question correctly. The drives I linked support either step+dir input or analogue speed input. So yes, you still need an additional controller to provide this which patially cancels the price advantage. A Thanos or Motion4Sim ist quite expensive (around $300). This is affordable for 6 DOF but would add $100 per axis for a 3DOF the thread starter intends to build.
    So I have to admit that an Arduino or ODrive solution is still competitive and the industrial servo might not be ideal for 2DOF or 3DOF, sorry.:blush
  5. Attyla.pl

    Attyla.pl Active Member

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    Thanks for your answer, you understood me perfectly :)
    I don't have a technical background and was wondering how to drive these 220V motors, the thanos board isn't that expensive for the whole project and using 220V means we don't need expensive power supplies.
    Question are you planning any project on these 220V motors?
  6. Aerosmith

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    Yes, and you don't need to worry about blowing up anything. The 220V servos have overvoltage, undervoltage, overtemperature and overcurrent protection and the motors don't runaway if the feedback cable breaks.

    Yes, I'm currently building 12 of theese actuators, 6 for my project and 6 for my friend who is building a rig similar to Dirty's.

    @Rumpelbube sorry for the OT discussion. I hope it was also somehow helpful to you. Any other questions?
  7. Stahlwolle

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    I built my 2dof simulator with two 250W wheelchair motors at 60€ each, so far two Ibt2 controllers for 10€ together, Two potentiometers for one euro each, an Arduino Nano for 3€ and two 600W power supplies, 30€ each. So all together less than 200€.
    It's a build and a hobby, I'm learning a lot from it and the costs are manageable. Thanks to the great help from this forum, it performs perfectly, the motors are more powerful than i need.
    Now to your idea: So you mean no controller is necessary, no programming? Everything is plug and play and coordinated with Simtools?
    I don't know how much the shipping costs are to your country, but I have to pay half the purchase price for shipping. So I'm at the same price with these power guzzlers like with my proven concept, for which I always receive support in this Community.
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