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SimTools v3 Public Beta

Discussion in 'Tutorials and Tips by the Developer' started by yobuddy, Sep 26, 2022.

  1. swanny

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    Exactly! Thanks for that.
    May I respectively suggest that the documentation might better serve if it were a wiki.
    Less work for the devs and dynamically including all the tidbits of knowledge acquired as we go along.
    I was able to find what I needed but it was a scavenger hunt through untold volumes of postings and discussion.
    I have background in this. Documenting software always lags the process which move so quickly.
    In my previous life, I saw where the people who were most current and cognoscente were often the least able to describe what they were doing.
    Just my thoughts
    Doug
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    I suspect it would be easier if v3 actually provide clear tooltips for specific game quircks, when the plugin was loaded, and any written documentation should be added to either the:

    Quick Start Guide: https://simtools.us/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/QuickStart-Guide-for-SimTools3.pdf

    Official manual: https://simtools.us/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/SimTools-v3.pdf
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    is it possible to use the settings of simtool v2 with Sabertooth 2x32A and easily switch to simtool V3 ?
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    Apologies if it is already covered. I was looking at installing V3 Pro but could not find any reference to a two PC setup? The two PC setup works well for V2.4 with Game Manager->Game Engine. I hope that this feature will be included at some stage in V3?
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    My understanding is that a 2 PC install is no longer considered useful given the power of modern sim capable gaming computers.
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  6. yobuddy

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    Yes, Simply use the same interface in v3 with the same settings you use in v2, and you should be golden.
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    The plugins for DCS and IL2 for SimTools V3 are both steam based. I am using DCS and IL2 non-steam based. Is there any plans to modify these plugins to a non-steam based version?

    If I had the source for the existing steam plugins I could attempt it.
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    yobuddy Well-Known Member Staff Member Moderator SimAxe Beta Tester SimTools Developer Gold Contributor

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    I can't think of any reason why they would not work for both versions (steam and non-steam) with a simple shortcut update for the non-steam version. (so it will launch the right version).

    You may find that some game plugins do not set a launch path for a given game plugin, or the path is setup for a different version of the game than you have installed. To update a launch path for any game plugin, simply drag and drop the games exe or shortcut on the banner for the given game plugin.
    upload_2024-12-16_21-7-53.png

    Let me know how it goes,
    yobuddy
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    Help Automating "Set #1" and Starting Motion Profile via CLI in SimTools 3


    Hello SimTools Community,

    I’m trying to automate the process of selecting Set #1 and starting the motion profile in SimTools v3 (for my Gran Turismo 7 plugin). I’d like to achieve this using the command-line interface (CLI) or any supported automation method to streamline my setup process.

    Here’s what I’ve attempted so far:

    1. Running the following command from Command Prompt:

      "C:\Program Files (x86)\SimTools3\SimTools.exe" -Set 1 -Start

      Unfortunately, this results in an error:
      "The process cannot access the file because it is being used by another process."

    2. I’ve ensured SimTools is already running in the background (system tray), but it seems like the CLI is trying to launch another instance instead of communicating with the active one.
    My Goals:
    • Select Set #1 (or any profile set, like Set #2).
    • Start the motion profile directly.
    Questions:
    1. Does SimTools v3 support CLI commands like -Set and -Start when SimTools is already running?
    2. If not, is there another recommended method to control SimTools (e.g., a scripting API, hotkeys, or external tools)?
    3. Are there any specific settings or configurations I need to enable for CLI commands to work?
    Any help or guidance would be greatly appreciated. Thank you for your time! Screenshot 2024-12-16 230915.png
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    That is what is implied by the manual. I did drag the .exe onto the plugin and clicking on the plugin it did not start DCS. Is there a directory where this data is located to check the change?

    The game plugin tutorial mentions ;

    _GameOrigin : I am interpreting the text as Not steam so it should be CD ? so,

    Create_LaunchShortcut(IPlugin_Game_V3.Shortcut_Type From_Exe, MyPath & "DCS.exe")

    How ever the way MyPath variable is assigned.

    I believe that this is at the compile level of the plugin to change this?
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    Does anyone has Mfs 2024 plugin working ? My 2 dof system (simtools v3) works with every sim: asetto, dirt 2, iracing, beam ng but not with mf2024. Plugin starts when i launch a game. The seat position itself to base adjustment but it doesn't work in game. I don't have any values in min/max page. I have made basic settings with pitch and roll both at 50% and in min max +10 and -10 - both ground and air.
  12. yobuddy

    yobuddy Well-Known Member Staff Member Moderator SimAxe Beta Tester SimTools Developer Gold Contributor

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    Did you double click the play button?
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    Did not even think of that. I saw the play image and kept single clicking to play. (I watch a lot of youtube vids daily so it was an automatic response single click.). DCS starts up now. :thumbs
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    Hi !

    Same issue for me

    Ok with Fs2020 but no data with 2024
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    IL-2 PROBLEM

    I am trying to install the IL-2 plugin for which I don't have the steam version. I am getting a "This selected path is not valid for patching!" error which doesn't let me at least load the plugin, so I can then alter the start location later by doing the drag .exe.

    I have flown in the game with both launcher.exe and .exe start with simtools running prior to installing the plugin.

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    OTHER

    Also if I can make a suggestion to the QuickStart guide? If the wording were added it may better help some new users in some circumstances. The main User Guide already has this wording but not the QuickStart.
    Thanks.

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  16. yobuddy

    yobuddy Well-Known Member Staff Member Moderator SimAxe Beta Tester SimTools Developer Gold Contributor

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    Please select the root folder for the game, the "IL-2 Stur..." folder, and you should be golden.
    (I made a note as to add "double click" to the next update of the quick start guide.)
    Take care!
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    IL-2 PLUGIN AXIS ASSIGNMENT ANOMOLY

    As per the problem above. I installed IL-2 Steam to get the plugin to load.
    My rig has two AASD-15 interfaces configured and setup on A axis assignment and B axis assignment for DCS as the default profile.
    After installing the IL-2 plugin and checking the new setup. I found that the original A axis assignments carried across from the DCS setup but the B axis assignments did not. Not a biggie as a user and just wanted to note this if it was intended to carry across to new plugins.
    I will confirm if this occurs with the FS2020 plugin install.

    Note: A was saved as both default and Global as was B. But I may have saved B as Global first then default. I will take care with the FS2020 install.
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    Thanks but I did try this. It still came up with the error as I worked my way back through the directories to the root.
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    Once the plugin is setup how you like, go to the options page, then in the lower right, click Export Wizard. Then click game plugin, and select your plugin. Then select a Custom Plugin (bottom option) and make sure that at least the Motion checkbox is selected.

    This plugin can then be drag-dropped into simtools v3 to install as you want. Or can be shared from a repo.
    Hope this helps,
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    yobuddy Well-Known Member Staff Member Moderator SimAxe Beta Tester SimTools Developer Gold Contributor

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    With the B axis assignments selected, please select "save as global" and the b axis settings should now carry across to new games also. (I will check it out thou, to make sure its working as it should)
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