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Question New Build using Kollmorgan 12-943434C actuator

Discussion in 'DIY Motion Simulator Building Q&A / FAQ' started by Nerdstrocity, Jan 24, 2025 at 18:56.

  1. Nerdstrocity

    Nerdstrocity New Member Gold Contributor

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    I found these actuators on Ebay and thought what the hell, for $265 for 6 or $44 per actuator after tax and shipping, this is a pretty good deal even if it's only to experiment and protype. I purchased 6 of them and proceeded to try to find out what I had just purchased. I bit of a cart and horse thing.

    The seller didn't know anything, and the part number is a custom part number generated for the USPS and comes from a MDC sorting facility that was closed. No info on controls or what specs are on the actuator.

    Kollmorgan responded to my email and evidently it is a IDC NH series with a 160v 2a PMDC motor with a brake on the end. The control drive can be generic as long as it meets the voltage/amps requirement. The official servo drives are the H3301B, H3321B, H3501.

    Fortunately I was able to find some on ebay and was able to purchase all 6 drives for around $375.....Crap.
    I figured I kinda screwed myself if I didn't get the drives since 160vdc power supplies seem to run $75 without having any controls built in. and these drives are super expensive.

    My plan is to disassemble one of the actuators and measure the lead screw and should be able to deduce the full specs with the information I have. Then I should know the thrust, speed, stroke of the actuators, and confirm they pair up with the drives and function properly. The actuators appear to support reed switches/ hall effect magnets that get wired into the drive and will activate end-stop braking.

    I'm wanting to build a Stewart Platform, that is as compact as possible, and setup more for space/flight sims vs racing.
    My questions:

    1. What is the best way to add position sensing? Is it necessary, or is homing and setting length and speed parameters enough?
    2. What are my options for control interface? Thanos? SFX-100 shield? Any other viable options for DIYers?
  2. Nerdstrocity

    Nerdstrocity New Member Gold Contributor

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    Here are some pics

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    I just started bench testing these drives with IDC actuators. The problem I ran into is the acceleration/deceleration is great for a set speed point but when the speed input is changed it's like they use the slowest acceleration/deceleration setting. I even tried jogging, changing speed then jogging again and on the second jog it resumes at the first speed then decelerates over a few seconds to the second speed when the second jog was initiated. You can bench test with a couple of momentary switches and potentiometer.

    I hope there is way to get the speed input response to honor the acceleration/deceleration setting pots but I don't know how to get support on 20 year old drives.

    Use the wiring in Example 1: Jogging the Actuator from the drive manual

    I assume this is some kind of safety feature and I could not find any configuration that respond quickly to remote speed input changes. I have begun looking at other drives for this reason.

    ID/Kollmorgen actuators use hall or reed sensors mounted to cylinder.

    Actually, there are a couple of different types of cylinder housings with different slot spacings, i don't remember the specific differences but can look later.

    RPS-1 mechanical reed normally open
    RPS-2 mechanical reed normally closed
    RP1 hall effect normally open
    RP2 hall effect normally closed
    Last edited: Jan 25, 2025 at 07:59
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    Also, 2 of my cylinders are belt drive and one is geared. The belt drive cylinders use HTD 5mm belts and pulleys, you could buy or 3d print some gears to change the ratio if you need to. I found a good timing belt length calculator online to determine what belt change I would need for a given pulley change.

    I am testing with a arduino nano since I had them and they are code compatible with Uno using the updated SMC3 code. I am using an off the shelf pwm to 0-10v signal converter for the remote speed input, UNL2803 Darlington Array to boost logic signals to 12V and LM393B to buck 3301 drive output signals back down to 5v. The limit switches are connected to the drive and the drive output signals are connected to the arduino.
    Last edited: Jan 25, 2025 at 07:56
  5. Nerdstrocity

    Nerdstrocity New Member Gold Contributor

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    Nice, you have a good headstart on where I am at. I can't wait to see what you learn. I will update when the drives arrive and if I come up with anything new.
  6. Nerdstrocity

    Nerdstrocity New Member Gold Contributor

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    So the gear ratio is 3 to 1 on the one I opened, and the built in brake is 24vdc 10w. Which according to the manual I got, is not matching up. The manufacturer only lists 1to1, 1to1.5, and 2to1 gear ratios for their belt drive. The brake voltage is as 115vac in the book and on the drive.
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    I'm too green to post links.
    Google "IDC N Series Actuator" and look at the kollmogern link pdf file
    Google "IDC N2 Series Actuator" and look at the kollmogern link pdf file
    Google "IDC EC Series Actuator" and look at the kollmogern link pdf file

    Note that the definition of 2B and 5B swapped at some point (0.5", 0.2" lead)
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    The motors are rated 160V 2A? What's the gear ratio and pitch of the screw? To test what speed you can expect, connect a 12V battery or bench supply to the motor and time how long it takes to move from one end stop to the other. At 120V you can expect 10 times the speed and at 160V ~13 times...
    UHU servo drives are very simple and accept step/dir input.