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motor pots

Discussion in 'Electronic and hardware generally' started by terry wells, Apr 2, 2014.

  1. terry wells

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    What size pot do you recommend to use for controlling a 12vdc wiper motor? I am hoping that they are not to costly.

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    5K or 10K Linear pots, they can be found as cheap as 2-3$ in local store, but they don't last long, they wear after some weeks of use and slowly sending the 'dirty' signal which makes motor jitter. Those are the cheap ones. There are also higher quality linear ones from 20-50$ that last much longer.

    Lately the Hall Effect pots are becoming popular here, they are the ones with cleanest signal and last long, can be found from 30-40$ and above.

    Take a read here about Hall pots:
    http://www.xsimulator.net/community/index.php?threads/Hall-effect-potentiometer.4948/
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    cermet (ceramic metal track) are the one which deserves to be expensive as it is the highest quality standard.
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    If motor arm is only going to use 180 deg , which should be max for DC motors , then the 180deg hall effects are the best to use, from personally using them I would not step back to replacing pots every month as I have found with all others, but that's about 60+hrs of sim driving on a very harsh profile to kill cermet pots, and about 2 days for std cheap one.
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    Use the ones you were asking about in the other thread if you need 180 degrees.
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    My suggestion: Conductive Plastic Potentiometer. Up to 10 million turns.
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    Ok ,Thank you.:thumbs


    You say you are better than these? http://uk.farnell.com/jsp/search/productdetail.jsp?SKU=2319661

    You can put a link of the shop please?;)
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    Better - not. But the hall pots are really sensitive and fragile, furthermore the minimum supply voltage is 4.5V instead of the 1V. So you can use with the non hall potentiometer a wider range. I have read something how to adjust the hall pots, surely the guys here will provide you with information.

    The conductive plastic pots are a compromise between cost and lifetime. I bought this one (~17$), > 1 mio turns guaranteed:

    http://www.conrad.ch/ce/de/product/...einstellbar-Lin-10-k-2-W-10-?ref=searchDetail

    Better but more expensive ($??):
    http://www.megatron.de/en/products/...uctive-plastic-potentiometer-series-mp20.html

    The linear tolerance is only at 1%. Over 10 mio turns guaranteed.

    There are many other conductive plastic on the market to try them out. IMO if one pot (under $20$) works for more than 6 months it is worth the money.

    Not to forget: the conductive plastic pots are extremely easy to turn.

    PS: my pots are now 2 months in action, no noise or malfunction.
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    PPS (better explained)

    - Special impregnated plastic material with well controlled resistance characteristics
    - High quality (audiophile and professional) pots, both rotary and linear (slide).
    - Excellent life, low noise and very good mechanical feel
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    Thanks Pit your information can be very useful and I think I will cosider for purchase. Wanted to make an observation: if I understand correctly ... you said that if a potentiometer lasts more than 6 months must be regarded as lucky as I am more of a year use this type of potentiometer wire made in Germany and I've paid £ 9.50.
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    And I must say that until recently worked fine time ago now started acting up not score more esatta.Diciamo the position that if I do that I use an average sim in your spare time for more than a year will have worked about 150 ore.Secondo you the duration of my pots and good?
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    First, if your pots are working for more than one year I would say you are a lucky fellow and bought a really good one, of course German quality ;) And please could you write the last sentence completely in English? o_OI do not understand all. Thank you.

    PS: the lifetime is one side, the other is the noise of a pot. The better the quality (less noise) the quieter and more linear the motors.
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    Ok, so should I keep these I have and that cost little .... :thumbs

    The last sentence was, ultimately did not work well potentiometers can no longer hold a position.Se I mean I used the sim in my spare time and about 150 hours ... more than a year.

    I'm sorry but I use google translator and also I often do not understand what you say :confused:

    Anyway thanks your information was useful to me:thumbs