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Tutorial MotoMonster Dual Half Bridge - 60A Continuous and 120A Peak (12V)

Discussion in 'Motor actuators and drivers' started by Pit, Mar 2, 2015.

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  1. Pit

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    The Moto Monster is well known as a Dual Motor Driver (called as a h-bridge, too). This cheap motor driver ($ 13 at Aliexpress) works as a half bridge as well. More information how to connect two Monster Moto output drivers together to drive a single motor using SMC3 you will find here:
    http://www.xsimulator.net/community...cts-as-a-single-motor-driver-more-power.5482/
    Now the time is ready to go ahead, the next step on the to-do-list is the MM Dual Half Bridge Motor Driver(s).
    If one MM works as a "Single Driver", two of them should do in the same way:
    MotoMegatronMonster.jpg
    For that purpose I ordered two MMs (each ~13$) and one Arduino Beginner Set (only ~8$ including wire, breadboard and USB connector!).

    Breadboards are very helpful to avoid any spaghetti syndrome. You can be sure if we will use four MMs at least to power up two big motors there are many jumper wires...too many if you will not keep order.

    The experiment starts this week and will end on the weekend. If this experiment will success, we will get for less than [EDIT] 26 bucks (including delivery!) a super strong and super fast motor driver. If not, I lost some MM samples :rolleyes:

    Stay tuned :)

    20150302_152034.jpg

    IT WORKS - MORE INFO HERE
    VIDEO HERE

    CONCLUSION 03/22/2015

    These combo has been tested now for a while under very hard conditions and I can confirm it is running without any issues. Every MM will be less hot and this saves any lifetime. Finally between all the mixed outputs there a car fuses build in and not even one fuse has been blown yet. If you need powerful but cheep h-bridges, here you go.

    EDIT 05/17/2015 I have slung the fuses away, no issues since weeks.

    EDIT 10/20/2018 Still working without any issues.
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    Hi Pit!

    You're still devoted to your moto "I like excessive destructions of h-bridges" :)

    Thanks for sharing this experiment!

    pit hamburger motomonster.png

    I received my second Motomonster saturday, i'll do the double cheese motomonster trick soon!

    The arduino you ordered need a special driver CH340, no ? :D
    Mat
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    oops, driver has been installed automatically (win8). Do not know if it works under win7...

    Some post I found at aliexpress: "...no extra drivers required (tested on Windows 8.1) - just plug-in & driver will be installed automatically. In Device Manager it's named as "CH340G". Full pack as described, quality for it's money. Usb-B cable included. All works fine, good way to try micro controllers programming."

    This: http://www.wch.cn/downloads.php?name=pro&proid=65

    USB转串口CH341/CH340的WINDOWS驱动程序安装包， 支持WINDOWS 98/ME/2000/XP/Server 2003/VISTA/Server 2008/Win7/Win8 32位/64位，通过微软数字签名认证，在计算机端将USB设备仿真为标准Serial串口设备COM?，包含识别CH34X串口号及监视CH34X设备插拔的库，用于随产品发行到最终用户

    I think, I did understand all :D

    PS: I attached the driver if someone is looking for it...

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    exactly! but on Win7 it's not an automatic install ;)
    Good for you!
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    OMG! it's a godzilla motomonster!!

    My picture was really representative in fact!
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    First I was so stupid, I build in an already damaged MM and was wondering why the hell there was no power (multimeter testing)...now all is correctly installed and the test has been ready to be started.
    As a pioneer which I am - which I believe so ;p (not seriously) - I could not wait until the next week end and was hardly working today - and
    I got it working - really

    IT WORKS!!

    I uploaded a video for better viewing, but please ignore my comments and excuse my English :)
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    Well done, @Pit! Exploring new worlds! 60A * 12V = 720 W ≈ 1 PS
    With this kind of power it will be possible to build a proper 3DOF with DC and arduino :thumbs

    Edit: If we can trust the datasheet of your winches, you actually *can* load them with 120 A!
    So your sim will really become a beast!
    And I have to consider replacing my winches and the JRK's :p
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    Wow! So @Pit would it theoretically be possible to just keep "stacking" MM's for almost no limit in amperage, sorta?
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    lol, beware, as long the jerks are working no upgrade is really needed, anyway thank you very much :)
    The wiring is the same, olnly "doubled". Use breadboards, they make wiring easy. The winch is not the same which I am using for the seat mover, this is a bad Chinese sample using the worst planetary gear IMO. Got it for a few bucks at ebay.
    Stacking could be an option, but how to cool the chips? BTW if you are using 4 MMs, the chips wont be really hot...anyway very interesting idea!
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    Sorry @Pit - I did not mean actually physically "stacking" them but just adding more in parallel like you have done. Only thing I wonder is about the outputs from Arduino. Any idea how many MM's one Arduino could drive? Just a curiosity question.
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    Ha, ha! sorry, I didn't see it on my phone:grin
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    has not been posted yesterday :)
    BTW I would use fuses between all outputs to avoid any faults.
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    Pit this is really a great idea!
    I can't see any drawback if you use fuses..
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    it "should" work.................not already tested.
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