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Kanuk's first foray into the world of motion simulation...

Discussion in 'DIY Motion Simulator Projects' started by kanuk, Jan 27, 2015.

  1. kanuk

    kanuk If it ain't moving, it ain't simulating...

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    @Kirk

    Yes indeed sir. Well spotted and it is the Silverstone ML07. I looked for various different cases and decided upon this one because it really lends itself to this application due to its ability to come apart and be modified appropriately whilst maintaining a nice low profile in height and containing everything I need it to contain.
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    You ve got a strong point considering safety.

    Just keep in mind that lowering the pot travel, means loosing sensitivity.
    20%-30% in your case.

    Its not too much. And depending on your needs it may not affect the end result.

    In my case I learned the hard way (changed my design from 180degrees of pot travel to 270 degrees because some of the details of the surface of the track were absent with the smallest pot travel).

    But whatever spur-pinion combination you have, you can always increase your motor rotation travel (if design permits it) and get more pot travel/resolution.

    Just keep in mind that the more you go above the 90 degrees of motor rotation arc the motor's rotation translates to less and less linear travel on the rods and seat.
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  3. kanuk

    kanuk If it ain't moving, it ain't simulating...

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    Indeed sir @pipis2015

    Thank you for the reminder. I always planned to drop the spur to a smaller one anyway once I have fettled the other parts of the system and yes, quite aware of the mechanical limitations of increasing the arc of travel on the motor. I do want the resolution of course. I would not sacrifice any of the subtleties that can be had but nevertheless I am building a second one of these. That will be a dedicated seat shaker, for racing. This unit, is being built, quite specifically for my Elite:Dangerous addiction..... with the occasional use of GRID Autosport. I am presuming that the loss of resolution may not be quite as pronounced on a flight simulator? Here's for hoping! ;) hehehehe
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  4. kanuk

    kanuk If it ain't moving, it ain't simulating...

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    So I have prepared the mounting system for the seat shoulder frame consisting of a M10 Rose Joint with 10mm threaded rod and a couple of push in rivet locks @ 10mm DSC_0130.JPG DSC_0131.JPG ....
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    Nice idea with the Stand offs, Little long maybe you could cut them down to size.
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    kanuk If it ain't moving, it ain't simulating...

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    @Nick Moxley Thank you. And yes.
    They will not have ends visible when I am finished with them. They are currently there to give me a little 'adjustment' room if I need it whilst testing...
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    kanuk If it ain't moving, it ain't simulating...

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    The butt holder all ready for mounting..... :)

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    Nice seat, I am guessing it is pretty weighty, how heavy is it?
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    kanuk If it ain't moving, it ain't simulating...

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    Thank you @noorbeast
    It's actually out of a Holden SS/V ute I believe. I bought the pair of them with the rails and was going to use them with the rails to form some sort of adjustable pivot point and that weighed in at just over 22Kg's. Once I had removed the rails and weighed just the seat itself, that came in at just over 10Kg's, so its about 30% heavier than say a Tillett or Recaro Race Seat....
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    That is better than I expected.

    You can use the rails to make adjustable pedals. An adjustable pivot point is only useful if you are switching between modes of a simulator, say full frame to seat shaker, and it is more easily achieved with a center post that clamps to rails.
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  11. kanuk

    kanuk If it ain't moving, it ain't simulating...

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    @noorbeast
    I was pleasantly surprised too! I actually had my eye on a Peugeot RCZ seat but it was way overpriced to acquire one. I love the look of them and thought it would be sexy as hell to use one but I think I got quoted well over $1K new and about $600 second hand.... I was going to do it and then thought it through... LOL
    Besides, I wouldn't want to justify the unjustifiable to the finance minister.....
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  12. kanuk

    kanuk If it ain't moving, it ain't simulating...

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    Hello everyone. Sorry for the long absence! Been tremendously busy with work and between buying a new residence and kids, well, you know..
    but stay tuned for more udates coming soon..
    :)
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  13. kanuk

    kanuk If it ain't moving, it ain't simulating...

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    Hello everyone!

    I must apologise for the tardiness in the updates. Bought a home, renovated, family etc...

    But I am now back into it with gusto and have also proceeded to build a race sim. SO photos to follow soon on the flight chair and then the race unit.

    I am currently wiring up the ard and motomonsters so will definitely need help in this area!

    Cheers!
  14. kanuk

    kanuk If it ain't moving, it ain't simulating...

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    Sorry for the long absence guys. Been dealing with some personal issues around my family and siblings with the worst of it of having lost my dear Dad last year at the age of 90. But now I'm back to continue where I left off (and yes... I have been busy modifying things around my original simulator build...)I also happened to purchase a home so that took precedence in way of rebuilds, renovations and what not!

    SO, I also last year came across a commercial fixed frame simulator (TrakRacer) and decided to purchase one. Since my initial inception was always to build 2 simulators, one for race and one for flight (ED), I decided to build up the car simulator first as my children were all bugging me for one. I had a whole series of photos as I built the frame for the motion platform but as Murphy would have it I lost those so the only photos are those of it completed I am afraid.Now having completed the electronics I am about ready to delve into the Sim-tools installation and setup and naturally would rely heavily on the expertise by all you wonderful people on this forum.

    I'll start by posting some photos...

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    This is the arduino and motomonster controller box. I have it ready and cabled and ready following the SMC3 config

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  15. kanuk

    kanuk If it ain't moving, it ain't simulating...

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    Here are the photos for my 2DOF simulator

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    The actual frame. I designed and built this so that I can have freedom of choice re the model of fixed race sim I want to purchase and utilise. As one can see, the frame of the seat mover is able to fit and bolt up to the rails of any simulator out there as long as it uses the standardised mounting system for either a normal or bucket type seat with brackets....

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    The levers and connecting rods...

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    I'm utilising the 200w motors here from Motion Dynamics with 50:1 gearboxes which ought to be ample for the purpose....

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    The Wheel and pedal set mounted....

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    The seat I'm using (it's a DX Racer type copy... probably going to creak!)

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    The pots ( Thanks @noorbeast for the recommendation!)

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    The PC I built custom for this chair..... :)

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  16. kanuk

    kanuk If it ain't moving, it ain't simulating...

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    The chair as it is at the moment (Please excuse the mess!) :eek:

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  17. kanuk

    kanuk If it ain't moving, it ain't simulating...

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    And this is the button box I am currently building!

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  18. kanuk

    kanuk If it ain't moving, it ain't simulating...

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    I used these brackets to recess and mount the pots.

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    Fitted the couplers...

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    And mounted them so that they are ready to go.

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  19. kanuk

    kanuk If it ain't moving, it ain't simulating...

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    I got it all wired up and fired up tonight. And I would like to say that its all working according to the SMC3 utils step by step!
    No blown ard and no blown MM's! yay!

    Now on to installing simtools.....

    :D
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  20. kanuk

    kanuk If it ain't moving, it ain't simulating...

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    Mounted the 3 way switches on the button box

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    Cut the switch shafts to size and dials in place and added the renovatio dial....

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    And now mounted onto simulator

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