6 Dof project

Same or equal models (12V), some are stronger, you should not go over 2000lb or 750 W or 1000KG.

Way too strong, partially 220V...

I could not read all the specs, for traction loss you need in minimum a 12V 100W gear motor approximately 50:1 or 60:1.
Please keep in mind the winches are slow, you need a longer lever to get the best of speed/forces. And in minimum 2 moto monster (MM) for each winch..., traction loss one MM, heave two MMs

Please have a look into the FAQ there you will find any useful information, especially this: http://www.xsimulator.net/community/faq/beginners-please-read-first.135/

PS: if you can check out the winches at a local dealer I advise you to have a look at the slack of the planetary gear. Some winches have more slack other less.

more slack is better or worst ? @Pit
ı want to review my purchase list with you.
3x http://www.sahibinden.com/ilan/yede...arazi-araci-12-volt-mini-vinc-208108518/detay
8x Moto Monster
3x JRK or 3x arduino UNO (Never done coding before,but i know i can manage it)
?x Power sources ( after calculations)
3x Rotary potentiometer
Hbridge
1x http://www.sparco.com.tr/urun/sprint-v-new_5160.aspx?CatId=156
1x Thrustmaster T500Rs with F1 and
1x TH8A shifter
1x Oculus rift dk2
That is roughly the need i think.If you have any addition on the list,i would love the ideas.

The design is almost done,i will show some drawing later on.Actually i am an artist,so design is important for me.

Kind Regards

Baran

more is worse...

seems to be OK. The type is always the same, sometimes different gears so some have more or less slack.

They are cheap (aliexpress) order 2 more...sometimes they are faulty (depends the dealer...) or you do not attention while soldering...(most issues of beginners)

MM + Arduino OR jrk. Jrk's are controller and driver all in one jrk's are great but limited in high current (and winches need much power). You do not need coding, all codes are already available.

search function...

not exactly defined...? You need 10k potentiometer, 1 or multi turn, depends your setup.

The MMs are the h-bridge (already)

@noorbeast can advise you here

@Pit
i will go with ardurinos and MMs.
We were just talking about the frame with friends and they said about using 2xSCN5 s from http://frex.xsrv.jp/gpshop/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=1_39&products_id=214 shoulder mounted and 2x winches for traction loss and heave. is that possible ? can they work harmonicly ? i can imagine they can work efficient together. does winches fast enough like actuators ? or is it all about gears ?
I will check the local dealer about the winches slack in a few days.

Do SCN5s are better seatshaker or they are just expensive.

@Ministrinity did you bought the SCN5's from frexgp or just looked for them.
i have made my own list just to see the pricing which includes,

3xSCN5 -010-150( version -AS03 PNP EUR ILK to +24V) -125,000 Yen
3xRodend SCN5 5,832 Yen -
3xCollarOD14-10ID6t10 972Yen
1xDC24V 6.5A Power Supply 12,420 Yen
total : 144,288 Yen which makes 1.176 $

wheras mirai selling only 3xSCN5 1515$


@noorbeast i just looked for Steam VR , it looks promising.As you said,i think we are going to wait for consumer version.We will be using friends dk1 for the begining and maybe one screen only.

So,tomarrow i am going to start to order ardurinos and mms and the seat to start.
i already have driving force gt wheel,i will use it for a while i think.Then the frame is coming soon with drawings.

thank you for all courage you are giving to me.

Kind Regards

Baran

- traction loss does not need any winches.
- each motor works independent of other motors, no matter you are using.
- winches are fast reacting but slower turning, so the lever has to be longer as usual (~13cm)

no, probably SNC5 user can help you here.

@Pit
i was talking with someone on alibaba.
http://longway.en.alibaba.com/product/422410031-200070899/24V_DC_WORM_MOTOR.html

Model :89ZYT-WOG102122 12 22.5 50 75±10% 50:1 350
Voltage : 12v
Torque(NM):22.5
Current(A) : 50
Speed(Rpm): 160±10%
Ratio:50:1
Power(W):350

I think it will look like this if we use Actuators with DC motors.

if you will use MotoMonster as a motor driver you cannot use a 24V power source. The MM is limited up to 16V.

http://longway.en.alibaba.com/product/381309423-200070899/WORM_MOTOR.html

@Pit The link is general look of the product.I have talked with them about the specs and managed to find the 12v motor with the specs i have listed before.

checked the link you gave,they are the same company.

What do you think about the design ? i have find an arduino r3 in local dealer.will that be enough ?

Thank you

If you are using the SMC3 code each Ard supports max 3 motors. Sometimes it makes sense of using two Arduinos depending the distance between the motors.

do you recomend to do seat mover or platforrm mover.i think i will go with seat mover ,it looks more realistic.i want to know your ideas about this and the latest list i have made.because i am making orders tonight.if i will go with seat mover i will update the project photo.

@Pit @noorbeast
2x http://www.robotistan.com/10K-Potansiyometre-Ayarli-Direnc,PR-281.html

2x http://www.sahibinden.com/ilan/yede...2-atv-winch-2000-lbs-atv-vinc-148352757/detay

what about this motor
http://www.robotistan.com/12V-55-Rpm-Cam-Silecek-Motoru,PR-1628.html

2x http://urun.gittigidiyor.com/ev-elektronigi/arduino-uno-r3-yeni-versiyon-ucretsiz-kargo-159402536

4x http://robotus.net/robot-malzemeleri/l298n-motor-surucu-devresi-2-kanal/
or http://www.robotistan.com/L298N-Voltaj-Regulatorlu-Cift-Motor-Surucu-Karti,PR-1329.html

some plastic chair at first tests.

already have driving force gt and screen.

i dont know how much psu i need.i need help on that .found this
http://www.hepsiburada.com/liste/hi...tails.aspx?productId=bd303945&categoryId=1012

Total : 455 $

will be running on notebook
intel® Core™ i7-4710MQ 4-Cores; 6MB L3; 2.50GHz > 3.50GHz; 47W; 22nm
2GB GDDR5 nVIDIA® GeForce® GTX860M 128-Bit DX11.2
8GB (1x8GB) DDR3L 1.35V 1600MHz SODIMM

Depends your skill level, dou you mean a 2DOF motion platform? If so I would suggest to build a seat mover and NOT a 2DOF motion platform.

Too cheesy, only for testing purposes...

Ok

too weak...

Arduino is Arduino...

Do you read any specs?

Double H bridge Drive Chip L298N
Logical voltage: 5V Drive voltage: 5V-35V
Logical current: 0-36mA Drive current: 2A (MAX single bridge)
Max power: 25W

PSU: please use search function.

Thanks.

i dont understand from them too much.sorry,that is why i am asking help here.

i dont have the skill but i have the confidence.i am not an engineer or anything but i have repaired almost all phones,leptops,builded pc's,designed a rc car and builded .i know lots of mechanical things about cars and planes.i would love to be engineer but i could not.
So you have a skilled(maybe) but unlearned guy.I definitely need help about terminological electronics and calculations but i do want an motion system to play.
i dont have the money to buy 10.000$ sims.
so i am sorry for disturbing any of you.
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@Pit

you are not "disturbing", I suggest you not to order already today but reading and studying more before you make any decisions

Hi Baran!
@Pit is right, you need to read the forum to get some basic knowledge, I think I'd read 60% of the forum (took me some months) before asking my first question, and even that way I'm a total newbie .
For me was a question of respect to the rest of the people in the forum, to show that I have real interest and not wanting to get things done without any effort.
You will find lots of building logs, lots of problems and fixes, different opinions, links to any hardware used, and even reviews of them, and finally and most important, people like @Pit and others that are willing to help you!

FAQ http://www.xsimulator.net/community/faq/

Regards!