KickStarter T1000 2, 3, 4, 5 Motion!

Hi All,

We just launch our Kickstarter campaign for the T1000 2, 3, 4, 5 motion ! Share it, support us!

Nous venons de lancer notre campagne KickStarter pour le T1000 2, 3, 4, 5 motion ! Partagez, supportez-nous!

Voici le lien :

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1068240120/motion-simulator-t1000-2-3-4-5-actuators-from-1890

Thanks

Patrick K

Nothing to be said more than the above links ...
That's what you'll ever get Patrick ... Zero backers ... Zero comments ... Zero popularity ...
Going down fast .
You didn't even become a gold supporter .
I respect your courage ... But you should respect the community please ...


Rien à dire de plus que les liens ci-dessus ...
Voilà ce que vous obtiendrez jamais Patrick ... Zéro bailleurs de ... zéro commentaires ... Zéro popularité ...
Descente rapide .
Vous avez même pas devenir un partisan de l'or .
Je respecte votre courage ... Mais vous devez respecter la communauté s'il vous plaît ...

Fully agree! Difficult to express my disappointment of @prosimu without being as impolite as he is…

@speedy @value1 Sorry I forgot to take the supporter package.... now it's done.


@yobuddy I send several email to you in order to have some explanations/collaborations with you... but i never receive any response from you. Felicitation, you do a great job for the community!

Our goal is to build simulators for people who doesn't have time to build or knowledge/materials for building a simulator, we manufactures simulator with low price as we could,.... If people buy our simulators, the community will grow-up and obviously they will support SimTool and your work!!! We are not a big company like Logitech or Fanatec..... if we were like this, we never do KickStarter campaign.....and do our own software!

Our goal is to make the simulation accessible to everyone and i think that we have the same goal!!!


Thanks

Patrick

Its clear that you are not attempting to help facilitate DIY builders but instead supply them with a commercial alternative for a profit. This constitutes commercial use and invalidates your rights imo to tell people that they can use simtools with your product after purchase when you are not already supplying them with your own native solution.

This is your excuse for disregarding Simtools license and the author’s copyright? Pathetic! It is not your place to make this decision!!!

Commercial use constitutes profiting either directly or indirectly. Even though you are not using the word simtools in your literature, you are obviously directing your purchasing customers to various places where they can obtain necessary software for your simulator to function, including simtools by your own statements. You would most likely not sell any simulators at all by just supplying a rig and motor control software without letting your customers know a way for it to connect to various games also and where to get it from. Therefore, I contend that you are indeed profiting indirectly from simtools and/or other motion extraction software and are guilty of license infringement! That is at least my personal view. Regardless, the author of simtools has asked you to not do this yet you still persist in making excuses to justify your actions. Again, pathetic! This is usually not the stance taken by a reputable company!

So what ? IMO apology is not accepted as there are a big list of what you've forgotten ... you are still like any other gold supporter ... that is a fraction of what www.Xsimulator.net disserves .

So, You are taking advantage of SimTools as ready S/W without paying for it's previous development plus holding it back ...
Then your next step is to make your own S/W after you gain enough money to kill this community down ...
Obviously we will hold you back with a big hammer and I'm sorry ... Good job @noorbeast every Euro counts .
I like France and what is made in France ... but you are imparessing yourself and all the French members here too .

If you really want to be supported by this huge community all over the world ... You can't imagine , How much ?
PLEASE , DO AS WHAT @yobuddy DEMANDS ...
HE IS MORE THAN FAIR PERSON .

See you soon with a GREEN FLAG mon amie .

"Oh, I just forgot to show you my respect and gratitude" doesn't work! It's that attitude that concerns me.

What a tool. Unbelievable man to not even get permission but just assume its fine to take others hardwork for your own personal gain. This community has been wonderful and beyond helpful on everything. Making a motion sim was once a simple dream for me but thanks to @yobuddy and @value1 with the software and some of the plugins its become a reality and I can't thank them enough.

Make your own software and find your own data for games if you do not have permission and the blessing of Simtools. Stating you are a small company etc doesn't mean anything, it's a stupid excuse.

I would suggest you report him on kickstarter
Intellectual property violation
A project is infringing on your copyright or trademark.

I am in complete agreement with all of the comments above. This is nothing short of the worst kind of piracy!
It is absolutely despicable! I would urge any potential backers to think long and hard about the ethics displayed by this Company before they part with any cash!

Hi Noorbeast,

Like i say everytime : "Our goal is to make the simulation accessible to everyone and i think that we have the same goal"

My clients buy our simulators and then could choose the software that they want to use : X-Sim, Lince, SimTool.

Some other software like "X-Sim" have a special offer for the professional : http://www.x-sim.de/software.php?lang=eng&page=termscommercial

Why SimTool don't do the same?

If you want only DIY user for the community, just remove your section : Non DIY Simulators | Commercial ones and remove the other section "Motion Simulator Assembled" http://www.xsimulator.net/community/marketplace/categories/motion-simulator-assembled.20/ and remove all adverts from different company who manufactures Simulators.


Notice that in the section "Motion Simulator Assembled" you have this sentence..... "Currently we are looking for partners who are interested in offering their simulators here." It's a joke??

I think SimTools team must reflect what they want?


Frex mentionned your software in their product and you don't do anything.... http://frex.xsrv.jp/gpshop/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=1_39&products_id=213


"It's so easy to lead a cabal against a company.... Go Go Go!!! Fire!"



I would be happy to be a partner and mentionned (on kickstarter/website/facebook....) that our simulator are compatible with SimTool and write each developper who works on the different plugins.....



Thanks

Patrick

Hi Noorbeast,

Thanks a lot for your constructive reply! And thanks for the link! I'm agree with you for your proposition of a commercial licence, i've just ask for this. I have ask for this in the past, but haven't receive any response....

I know that there is a lot of talented developers on SimTool/plugins and the website is updated frequently.


Thanks

Patrick

First of all @prosimu ... I think you should stop the hide and seek game because it is for kids only ...
Unless you want to lose access or your site being blocked ...

And Obviously YOU'RE leading a cabal against SimTools community which is not a good way to start a business ...

You don't want to at least put direct links to xsimulator.net at your site plus what is required from you in Euros ...

So you leave it blind to those whom you can deceive and make sure you profit more from the remote installation ...

which we do everything for free and that is the fun part for us [ we are Excellent into this department and don't challenge us ] .

Tout d'abord @prosimu ... Je pense que vous devriez arrêter le jeu de cache-cache, car il est à seulement les enfants ...
Sauf si vous voulez perdre l'accès ou votre site bloqué ...

Et évidemment, vous menez une cabale contre SimTools communauté qui est pas une bonne façon de démarrer une entreprise ...

Vous ne voulez pas de liens directs au moins mis à xsimulator.net sur votre site ainsi que ce qui est exigé de vous en Euros ...

Donc, vous le laissez aveugle à ceux que vous pouvez tromper et assurez-vous de profiter davantage de l'installation à distance ...

que nous faisons tout gratuitement et qui est la partie de plaisir pour nous [nous sommes en excellente ce département et nous ne remettons pas en].

They do! But the developers of simtools have so far chosen not to offer commercial licenses for purchase on their web site, but instead directly to commercial entities to sell with their products.

With xsim, I can see how it is not unethical for you to mention them and to point your customers to their website because they actually have a way for your customers to themselves purchase the proper commercial license (that is if they are honest and choose to do the right thing). But since simtools does not offer commercial licenses for purchase to individuals, it is unethical for you to refer you customers to it since there is no way for them to actually purchase the proper license themselves! I think the same holds true for Frex as well.

If your customers just happen to run across xsimulator.net on their own, with no direction from you, and choose to use simtools, that is a completely different matter than when you are directing them to it!