4dof + bass shaker + wind

Hi everyone,
First of all , i just wanna say that i'm from Québec, so i speak french. I have been reading simulator forums for the last 10 years , so i know the history of xsim ( This is what i was using in my last 4 setups). I never tried simtool but i look foward to it. I started with a simple 2 dof with wiper motor seatmover and then build something similar for a friend. I also tried to attach the wheel and pedal to the motion platform and then i went back to a reagular seat-only moving. After some burnt wiper motors ( i asked a lot out of them), i did not had time to repair it for a couple of years ( my son is two years old now...)

Now is the time to assemble back all the pieces i have acquired over the last couple of years.
What i will be using:
-Fantatec csr elite wheel
-Fanatec clubsport pedal V1
-Used Kirkey racing seat
-2 25:1 motor out of ebay ( canadian seller) for the regular 2 dof
-2 60:1 motor for the drift and surge
-4 x Jrk 12v12
-3x27 inch screen
-2 x aura bass shaker

My setup is inspired by the great work of SeatTime's DC motor Sim.
Here is what it looks like so far.



I tried to keep everything as closed to the ground as i could.

Welcome back!
glad you have some spare time again now

Here is a shot of the linear bearing i used to do the surge table. I got them free from my work, they are high quality out of a pneumatic linear slide (smc).

Impressive, I look forward to seeing this in Action.

Wow ! Surge effect is very good idea and unusual. Do you think that only one motor will be enough for this effect ?
I will follow this thread

I hope so... i can push the whole thing (without somebody in it) with one finger. I will also use a 60:1 motor reductor. I have 10 inch of travel but i may not use it all as i would have to make a longer lever on the motor and loose torque. Nothing is like trial and error!

Can't wait to see your final updated.

Nice I will folow whit attention your project

I have finished the motor mount for the surge effect.
What do you think?

I should be able to hook up 12v to it tomorrow and see how it behave. I agree, that lever is 6.5 inches long ctc...

Very nice work. Did you try with a load ?

Good works

i did some test tonight with the surge and the result are not perfect but not bad. The motor draw more than 35 amp peak easy... it may not be a problem but i'll see. The biggest problem is the weight of the whole thing it makes it hard to stop movement so the PID is hard to setup.
I was using the jrk setup utility and moving the position slider random.

The more i think about it the more i will redo the motor configuration.... I think i will go the chain and sprocket route. Do you guys know what kind of chain and sprocket i could easily find. I though of a regular bicycle chain. That way i could try different gears until i figure out what speed versus torque works best. I will do the same for the traction lost.

What kind of velocity you think would be ideal? I went for 6.5 inch long CTC because it was the lever giving me the possibility to use the whole movement. If i still want to use the whole travel i'm afraid i will need to use the full 360 degree rotation of the motor instead of about 110 degree. There is no way i will be able to use more rotation on a lever i'm afraid.

About 8.5 inch total.
@SeatTime would you recommend going with friction wheel? I was afraid of slippage and having to put the feedback on the rig itself instead of on the motor.

A little update

I added a battery in parallel with the jrk power and it did a big difference. I also played a little bit with the PID settings. Not perfect, because there is some play between the motor shaft and the motor itself and also the linkage to the structure is a little bit loose. I think the speed will be great.




I also started to work on the drift axis.


Let me know what you think.