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PT-Actuators 3DOF system?

Discussion in 'Commercial Simulators and Peripherie' started by LukeBrown, Jul 1, 2019.

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  1. ant10e

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    Hi all first posts so bare with me...

    Been reading the discussion and was
    hoping you could help me in deciding which way to go...
    I have two options I'm looking at
    1. Used d box with 4 x 6" HD Acuators
    OR
    2. New PT Acuators x 4
    Both systems costing the same.

    Your advice would be greatly appreciated.
    ant10e
    ant10e, Oct 17, 2019
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    In my view PT Actuators give far more flexibility in being compatible with SimTools and with great specs.
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    noorbeast, Oct 17, 2019
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    Always depends on costs . But the Pt-actuators are very modular and having gone through the process , will worth the price in my opinion
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  4. ant10e

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    Thanks noorbeast the flexibility is a great incentive but man those dbox's are so quite and reliable.
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    ant10e New Member Gold Contributor

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    Thanks for your help Absomfs cost is always a factor especially when one item is new and the other used for the same price.
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    No problem . I have the 4 actuators setup on a simlab P1-X and simtools . Works really well . Search pt-actuators on YouTube . I have a video with a Senna helmet on :)
    Absomfs, Oct 17, 2019
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    Is the price the same? Then you got a very good deal on the used d-box right?
    Hocky, Oct 17, 2019
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    r3df0x n00by Racer Gold Contributor

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    yeah, because 4x PT-Actuator costs between $4000 and $5200 USD
    r3df0x, Oct 17, 2019
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  9. ant10e

    ant10e New Member Gold Contributor

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    I saw the video and it looks great.
    ant10e, Oct 18, 2019
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  10. ant10e

    ant10e New Member Gold Contributor

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    Haven't bought them yet...still deciding even though they have been offered to me by a friend I'm thinking the PT's would be brand new.
    Thats why I'm trying to get as much feed back as i can
    ant10e, Oct 20, 2019
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    Hi all,
    I have a P1-X and I'm thinking of going down this path, either 3-actuator or 4-actuator for starters, then maybe adding RTL later.

    I've been reading here about the pros and cons of the number-of-actuators, the (two?) types of controller boards and etc, but I can't see anything that describes what I'd need to buy.

    Looking at the PT Actuators site, do I need (say) the "4DOF MDBox Racing Kit" and an "AMC-AASD Motion Controller"? Where do I look for that information?

    Cheers,
    Roger
    Roger Graham, Oct 23, 2019
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  12. Thanos

    Thanos Building the Future one AC Servo at a time... or 6

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    Did you try contacting Mr Shao here?
    http://www.pt-actuator.com/about.asp?lngLevelID1=42

    He sells the AMC-AASD15A control controller as well along his actuators KIT...

    The AMC-AASD15A controller and AASD-15A servo actuators are less expensive that MDBOX... fit better for DIY.

    Thanks
    Thanos
    Thanos, Oct 23, 2019
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  13. Roger Graham

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    Thank you Thanos. Presumably I also need to buy the Simtools software?

    Let me know if there's somewhere else I can go to read up on this for myself!
    Roger Graham, Oct 23, 2019
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  14. Thanos

    Thanos Building the Future one AC Servo at a time... or 6

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    My Motion Simulator:
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    Yes, you do need to get Simtools.
    You can read about the Simtools setup for the AMC-AASD15A controller in the manual:
    https://github.com/tronicgr/AMC-AASD15A-Firmware/blob/master/AMC-AASD15A_ 4DOF+TL-Simtools_manual_v2_1.pdf

    Or you can use FlyPT that is free (with less supported games):
    https://www.xsimulator.net/community/threads/flypt-mover-interface.13464/
    It supports many different motion platform styles:
    https://www.xsimulator.net/community/threads/flypt-mover-interface.13464/page-15#post-184928

    For further read, check my blog and the Racedepartment thread. Or join my Discord.
    http://motionsim.blogspot.com/2019/10/amc-aasd15a-servo-controller.html
    https://www.racedepartment.com/thre...-6axis-servo-motion-controller-thread.168360/
    https://discord.gg/bx4PxYR


    Thanks
    Thanos
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    The FAQs are useful for common questions.

    Be aware that SimTools (motion software and companion apps) and Xsimulator.net (community and community developed plugins) are different entities, see here for details: https://www.xsimulator.net/community/faq/simtools-and-xsimulator-partnership-explained.275/

    You can buy a SimTools license: https://simtools.us/licenses/

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    Cheers. I'm probably trying to run before I can walk! I'll get stuck into those links and the rest of this site.
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    I am looking at purchasing a setup from PT-actuators as well and will be keeping a close eye on this thread. I was looking at getting the 4 actuator setup and in the future add traction loss later. The rig will be 99% being used for cars/racing. Is there a reason why I shouldn't buy this type of setup?

    I am reading many of the posts on the forum and having a hard time grasping terms due to my lack of knowledge in this field.
    Zeroselect, Nov 1, 2019
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    The PT Actuators are powerful, what you may want to consider for a dedicated race rig is traction loss: https://www.xsimulator.net/community/faq/traction-loss.174/

    And/or some form of G-Seat and harness tensioner for simluating sustained forces: https://www.xsimulator.net/community/faq/gseat.20/category
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    So your implying not get the install the 4 actuators and just get the traction loss for a race only setup?

    I would have thought I would want the 4 actuators for suspension/road surface feedback?

    Also i say 99% racing but really mean 99% driving. I need my Dirt Rally! :)
    Zeroselect, Nov 2, 2019
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