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Minimum PC requirements

Discussion in 'Off Topic - All other stuff here' started by irayspot, Jan 30, 2025.

  1. irayspot

    irayspot New Member

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    Hello, I would like to know the bare minimum requirements for a PC to run a SimTools and Live for speed.
    This would be for test purpose.
    I will by a more powerful PC in time.
    But I would like to get a PC, or laptop for testing the motor and jig motor.

    So what is the minimum PC requirements?
    What is needed Windows, port, video card, ram?
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    Windows and .Net are required, other than that just about any computer will run SimTools, it uses very little resources.

    LFS is about as lite a simulation game as you can get, so grab the demo and make sure it runs on your laptop and you are good to go: https://www.lfs.net/downloadlfs

    LFS does need to be run before it is patched for motion: https://www.xsimulator.net/communit...run-in-first-person-mode-before-patching.365/

    You can even simulate a simulator: https://www.xsimulator.net/community/faq/simulating-a-2dof-simulator.278/
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    Tanks you Sir, for the info.

    I am not in the Windows word. By .net, you mean the cloud subscription of microsoft.
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    noorbeast VR Tassie Devil Staff Member Moderator Race Director

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    No, .NET is an installable framework on Windows.
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    What if I rephrase my first question, while were at it.
    If I don't by a cheap PC to make test and I go strait to buy the main game PC.
    What would be the minimum requirements for a PC to run the most demanding racing game and the Sim?

    It is a large question, there could be a few, intel, AMD etc.. but if you could point me in the right direction.
    I have been told that to mush power could create more heat.
    And I know that not enough is a pain.
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    noorbeast VR Tassie Devil Staff Member Moderator Race Director

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    There are so many variables like budget, running games at their max or mid setting, or if VR is on the cards.

    I guess the simplistic answer is the highest spec machine you can afford. Personally I would say with AMD CPU and Nividia gpu.
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    Look at steam or you prefered game, every developer has an minimum configuration.

    Does it make sense to buy an pc with minimum settings? Ofcourse not, buy an Playstation, much cheaper for better graphics and same experience.
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    Keep in mind a Playstation can be used in conjunction with a PC and motion, but is very limited in the scope of games that can be used.
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    I not going to buy a console. I want to build a sim, but I have nothing from the PC world. I always use Apple product. I am writing this post on my iPad.
    The first question, the bare minimum PC is for trying SimTool, SimCalc and testing the motor without spending 3000$+.

    I found :
    Lenovo Thinkpad P50, Intel Core i7 - 6820HQ - Nvidia Quadro M2000M 4 Go Vram
    for 500$ at a use PC store.

    The second question is to have a target as what am I going to need later.

    If it was a in the 1000$ PC, I would be better starting with that then burning 500$ on a old laptop.

    A low level desktop Is it any good? or just infuriating?
    ARMOURY Scout Gaming PC AMD Ryzen 7 5700, GeForce RTX 3050, 16GB RAM, 1TB NVMe SSD, Wi-Fi, Windows 11 Home
    $849

    And at look this for sure no need for a cheap laptop:
    That would a been good to play, for that price i9 and RTX..70, but it is sold out !!
    Refurbished Gaming Desktop Intel Core i9-11900KF GeForce RTX 3070 8GB, 32GB DDR4, 1TB NVMe SSD, WiFi 6, Liquid Cooling,Win10 Home
    $999

    A good desktop ( not top of the line but the best ready kit)
    Liquid Cool Gaming PC - Intel Core i7-13700KF, GeForce RTX 4070, 64GB DDR5 RAM, 2TB NVMe SSD, 360mm AIO, Windows 11 Home
    $3,199

    Built to order:
    Nzxt H7 (2023 Edition) Elite Mid-Tower ATX Case
    ASUS TUF Gaming Z790-Plus WiFi LGA 1700 ATX gaming motherboard
    AMD Ryzen 9 7950X3D 16-Core/32-Thread 5nm 144MB Cache ZEN 4 CPU
    NZXT Kraken Elite 360 RGB Liquid Cooler
    64GB (2x32GB) DDR5
    GIGABYTE GeForce RTX 5080
    Total : $4,100 (It is steep, so that why a cheap PC to start may be good)
  10. noorbeast

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    What is your actual budget?

    Bottom end is going to struggle with modern sim titles at higher resolution, I would suggest something like the Intel Core i9-11900KF GeForce RTX 3070 8GB, 32GB DDR4, 1TB NVMe SSD, WiFi 6 or above, depending on your budget.

    Something like that should do OK on a desktop, would likely do basic VR, but would not do high end VR.
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    Yes, that what I was tinking. To bag I did not see it before it sold out.
    I would have bought it today.
    Now the price of Core i9 GeForce RTX 4070 is mush higher.
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    Hey,

    My son works in the gaming industry and sells PCs. The choice of your graphics card will depend on your monitor setup for example, a single 1080p screen will consume much less power than three 1440p screens.

    For the processor, he recommends the Ryzen 7 9700X, paired with an Asus TUF B850 motherboard, 32GB (2*16) of RAM at 6000MHz CAS 30, and a Gen 4 SSD like the Kingston Fury Beast.

    You can unlock more performance by enabling the 105W mode in the BIOS the processor becomes much more powerful. That’s the upgrade he recently made, and it works great, just need à good radiator or watercooling

    An i9 is useless for gaming, and the latest generations have overheating issues, even causing burns in some cases. The new Core Ultra series is also less performant in gaming, which is a first in years… AMD is a great choice for processors, and if you have the budget, you could even go for the 9800X3D, the king of gaming CPUs !
    If you need a list of parts, feel free to ask
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    Thanks f or the infos.

    I all ready bought a laptop.
    I was suppose to update this post soner.
    Well this is as good a time as ever.

    I look at old gaming Laptop.
    A 12 to 15 years old dinausaur, were near 250$
    It was a net $ lost, and I am not even sure it would have work.
    A more recent 5 to 7 years old was around 500$
    Still a $ lost, and would have been a minimum for test in low setting.
    A brand new, bottom spec i5 Nvidia 2090 8go 256go was 700$ - 800$.
    Still a $ lost, but a good starting point, would not have been a big joy to play.
    A shop here in my town add a special for this 2100$ Laptop at -600$ rebate.
    a brand new 13900 i9, Nvidia 4060, 32go -1To at 1500$.
    I think is a good middle ground to start playing, and I can resale for the price I paied.
    So, not mush to loose.
    I a m going to built my sim and test it, with this Laptop.
    And I want to change later for a stronger desktop spec PC.
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    Indeed, VR requires a lot of power from the graphics card. In my opinion, a laptop is not ideal since components are often limited in performance to reduce heat. With a budget of $1500, you can find used desktops with high-end GPUs like a 4070 Ti Super.

    I have a Pimax 8KX, a Ryzen 7 5800X, and a 3080 Ti, I still have to make compromises for a smooth experience.