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12vdc actuators

Discussion in 'SimTools compatible interfaces' started by bevins, Aug 18, 2010.

  1. bevins

    bevins New Member

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    I can get some 12vdc heavy duty actuators @8amps for my sim. Can I use these with thanos's H-bridge or the controller he uses with the wiper motors. I figure the one he uses with the wiper motors cause they are 12vdc.

    Thanks,

    Bob
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    Frakk Active Member

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    With my telepathic powers I make up all the missing information from your post....


    Wait for it....



    Hmmm.... I guess not...
  3. bevins

    bevins New Member

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    Let me weed through your smart a%$ responses.

    I didn't ask you how to build it. I was simply asking can I use his controller with these 12vdc actuators. Thats it.

    Whats missing?
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    Eight amper uptake the maximum of your actuator?
    The wiper engines eat sometimes 40A.

    Device------IRFZ44N N-Ch-------IRF3205 N-Ch-------IRF4905 P-Ch
    VMax-------------55V----------------55V---------------------55V
    Current----49A @ 25 Celsius---110A @ 25 Celsius----74A @ 25 Celsius
    -------------35A @ 100Celsius-----80A @ 100 Celsius----52A @ 100 Celsius
    Dissipation------94W----------------200W----------------200W

    you can use the stronger IRF3205 instead of the weak IRFZ44
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    An actuator is a mechanical device for moving or controlling a mechanism or system. It takes energy, usually transported by air, electric current, or liquid, and converts that into some kind of motion.

    You specified 12VDC, so let's narrow it down to electric current, more specifically 12VDC.
    There are brushed DC motors, brushless DC motors, stepper DC motors, and about half a dozen variants of each.
    You can also have literally thousands of different mechanical constructions, but in this case only the electrical stuff matters.

    By now you should have figured out my point here:
    How are we supposed to tell you what works with your actuators, if we don't have any idea what actuators you are talking about?
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    For me: thanos H bridge makes it all clear!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  7. bevins

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    I understand where you are coming from. Maybe I wasn't really clear on my request.

    I only need to know the capabilities of Thanos controllers. If I have a 12V device, (How it moves or what it moves is irrelevant isn't it?) can I get servo type function out of his H-bridge to be able to control my device with X-sim.

    I will deal with the mechanical portion after. I have to make a decision if I want to spend the money for scn5's and have a less powerful system in terms of torque or us thanos's controller and control actuators with it. Bbasically what I want to do is the same thing as the scn5's but the servo's and controller portion of it replaced with thanos's controller. I would basically have an SCN type device but with much more force than what the scn5's can provide.

    I figure I can do it this way and would be easy because Thanos uses 12 wiper motors.same principle except instead of the 12vdc turning a motor it will be moving an actuator.

    Sorry for the lack of info or misleading initial post. I think in great detail. You cannot read my mind? C'mon, I've read your posts here....:)

    EDIT/ Oh, and I appreciate your time responding and your inputs. Thanks!!
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    hello bevins, I am Sterex and I am a newbie, right now finishing a plan for my sim at this stage, which I will start building as soon as my drawing and calculations finishes. For me its important not to start spending before your plan is ready exactly how you want it to be. just like you I guess.

    If I have understood your question correctly.. (assuming you are using a generic brushed DC actuator) as far as I know, unless its a weird type of intelligent control interface made for a specific type of actuator, it does not matter what kind of actuator you are using. So IMHO it will work. Only thing you have to be weary of is to make sure whatever actuator you are using is within the range of the controller, in other words motor/actuator should not consume more power than the driver and source can provide. At least that's what i think. I am talking about only from the actuator point of view regardless of any structure it is attached to (just only the motor). What exactly the actuators are going to move or do is your story. So if 8 amp is your stall current it will definitely run the motor, because its way below the maximum allowed in thanos H-bridge. I hope you have an idea.

    I apologize in advance if I hadn't maintained a proper etiquette in a forum, by responding to you. I strongly believe for us to learn by collaborating and sharing with each other , unlike some here who thinks after they build something, that they know it all. And then act like that Oh look at me I am the master of all the sciences of the world. This is not right. I think people should value each others time and collaborate no matter how much or less he knows and show people to the right directions. That's how I think someone who Knows a lot should do.
  9. Frakk

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    The capabilities of Thanos' controllers is to drive brushed DC motors. The AMC does all the calculations, the H-Bridge drives the power to the motors.

    If your actuators have BRUSHED DC MOTORS, you can use these boards. If the actuators have brushless or stepper DC motors, you will have to look somewhere else.

    It would help if you posted some pictures too.