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3DOF motion seat "fifty-thirty" with heave

Discussion in 'DIY Motion Simulator Projects' started by nnelsonn, Oct 26, 2023.

  1. nnelsonn

    nnelsonn New Member

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    Hi guys


    this is my first motion rig. I was inspired by this forum. I saw, i read and than i think “i want to build a motion rig like yours”.


    My current setup is a playseat challenge with Thurstmaster T248. My first idea was to build a 2DOF motion platform for the Playseat. After a few weeks of research the idea switched to a 2DOF platform with traction loss. And it will be final a 3DOF motion seat.


    My budget requirement? Cheap but solid and compact


    So, I bought the mechanical muscles first. 3 wheelchair second hand motors. 24V and a lot of torque. The big one comes with 60nm! The two little ones, i dont know.


    Then i bought 3 20A power supplies, a joint from a little truck, 3 motor driver BTS7960 and other electric and mechanical stuff. A office chair mechanic (@noorbeast like your smart idea) and a car seat from a BMW E46 ( i’m a german guy ;-) )


    I want to use DIY hall sensors.


    The 50x30mm steel profiles are sponsored by a bro.


    First i visualized my thoughts:


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    i start to build the rig from top down

    i’ve never welded before


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    I extended the point where the joint is extended for a longer lifting path


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    These are the first steps.


    more coming soon…
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    My first quetion is about the software i need.
    Do i need boot, SMC3 AND Simtools2.6?
    What i understand, simtools is the interface between game and moves (Arduino). But without licence useless to test my rig.

    Do i need SMC3 ONLY to test my rig and not longer after that?
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    You need SMC3 to initially configure your Arduino for your hardware, it is not needed after that.

    The demo version of SimTools includes the fully function Live For Speed plugin, specifically for testing purposes.
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    let's go forward


    at the building time, i change the construction


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    now the steering wheel rod and floor is installed


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    more coming soon…
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    by the way, i installed SMC3 on a Arduino Mega 2560. The original code is for an Arduino Uno R3 and do not work on a Mega 2560. With code adjustment (pin mapping will not work) it works without any problems but the easier way is to buy an Uno R3.
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    let’s go forward :)


    i have installed belt drive and DIY linear hall sensor 49e


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    time for color, felt carpet and the muscles


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    the first wiring (3x 0-24V 480W PSU, Arduino R3, 3x BTS7960) and a successful tests in SMC3

    I chose adjustable PSUs because I read that the BTS7960 often cause problems at 24V and I will probably work with 18-19V. Or, if possible, even lower. I found out, that the motor drivers work most safely between round about 8-18V.


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    My first issue was a low signal from 2 of the 3 hall sensors. Only 3,5V instead of 5V at maximum value. I changed sensors, tried other magnets.But after 45 minutes i found the problem. The sensors receive a weak input voltage. The breadboard has a voltage drop (maybe a sign of aging). Now, it works :)


    more coming soon…
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    let's go in the "final lap"

    the building is done and SMC3 and Simtools allows the seat to move.

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    now, i will get the electrics in a box

    a video will follow in the coming days
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    Here is my first Video. I tested LFS and wow, it works :)





    Now, i search 3DOF examples for Axis Assignments.

    At my first ride, i miss curb-effects. Wich axis is responsible for this?
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    you refer to my middle axis. there is "heave" movement
  11. Michail

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    i. The fact, I have the exact same motors, and I would like to add heave can you please tell me, what kind spring system are you using? Maybe the specs of it. Thank you very much
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    Cool project, i wanted such a compact rig also but since i only have wiper motor i did a "shoulder mounted" one, i'm still in welding phase now, big motivation to see other finish their rig !
    Keep up the good work
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    My Motion Simulator:
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    There are no springs, just a mechanism to keep the upper part of the seat from rotating and the lower part
    Components included
    1 top five cardan shaft
    5 bottom 10mm nuts
    3 iron plates about 12cm
    and components as shown in the picture below

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    metal bars and round sliders with a diameter of 16mm
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    I use surge 25% sway 25% and heave 50% on a 2DOF wiper motor rig, and can feel some curbs effect but since my motor is not strong and reactive enough, i get it only on some curbs and not on other.
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    Maybe you can add some photos, because the video is ab bit dark. I send you PM. Thank you!