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Question Arduino Reset

Discussion in 'SimTools DIY Version' started by terry wells, Nov 24, 2020.

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  1. terry wells

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    Why do I need to keep resetting my Arduino board for motion when I bank right? Motor #1 keeps shutting down. Both motors are setup the same in SCM3.

    hpwells1.
    terry wells, Nov 24, 2020
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    This usually happens when a motor can't get enough power to move the sim.
    (Or the balance is a bit off.)
    Please try running the sim for a bit without anyone in it, does it shut down?
    Chat soon buddy,
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    Can you please post pictures of all of your settings, and a video of the rig and game screen would also assist trouble shooting.
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    the potentiometers are going out of range and shutting the motor down ?

    push the motor back into range and see if the motor comes back to life
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  5. terry wells

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    Yes it shuts down without me in it. I set the plane in AP and execute a right turn/bank and the motor hangs up when it is at it's highest pos. The pot's are hall continuous turning. Thanks for the replys
    HPwells

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    I found this in the thread for the smc3 sketch...
    https://www.xsimulator.net/communit...3dof-motor-driver-and-windows-utilities.4957/
    Seems like the culprit to me?
    Let me know how it goes buddy.
    Take care,
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    OK, I will give that a try. Does the MAX LIMITS and the CLIP INPUT need to be somewhat the same??
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    Hi @terry wells,
    The way i read it, anything after clip limits the interface does its best to back-petal out of this region.
    Anything after max limits it will shut down.
    So if you set them the same value you never give the interface a chase to "get out of the red zone".
    Instead, it just shuts down.

    So for a test, try lowering your Max limits to 20.
    Chat soon,
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  9. terry wells

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    Should I do this on both motors?? Motor #2 is not giving me any problems.
    terry wells, Nov 25, 2020
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    I would, as the shutdown threshold is still there if something goes wrong.
    Otherwise you don't leave any room for the system to backpedal if it needs to.
    Take care,
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    I agree with yobuddy
    https://github.com/SimulatorMotorController/SMC3Utils
    Clip Input Used to create a band at either limit of the target range beyond which any values sent to the SMC3 are clipped. In addition to this clipping, if the motor feedback does move beyond this range (typically through inertia), the SMC3 will attempt to brake the motors hard by driving them in reverse until they are back out of this limit zone. The value can be anything from 0-255 (however can’t be less than the current limit setting). Reverse braking is applied in the band between the Clip Input and the Max Limit settings. Reverse braking can be disabled - refer to PWMrev.

    Max Limits Used to create a band at either limit of the feedback range beyond which if the motors move (typically through inertia) the SMC3 will automatically shutdown the drivers and keep them disabled until reset. This is essentially a safety mechanism if something goes wrong. The value can be between 0-255 (however can’t be greater than the current clip setting).

    @terry wells: topic title is misleading as it is not an arduino resseting itself
    maybe you could rename the topic "Motor keeps shutting down in SCM3"
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    I set both for max load to 20 and I still have the same problem. It only happens when the actuator to motor #1 is in it's upper position. All other functions work fine. I replaced the hall pot , and that was not the problem. The only thing I have not done yet is to replace the motor controller or the motor. I have installed a reset switch on my platform so that I can reset the Arduino board from the platform. I would rather fix the problem rather than use the switch. And yes this is a scm3 issue but it is the Arduino board reset that I found to somewhat fix the issue. Thank You and HAPPY THANKSGIVING TO ALL

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    With my Max Limits set to 20 and my Clip Limits set to 155, I still have the problem . Thanks for the reply.

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    Have you tweaked your PWMrev, that affects how hard the brakes are applied once the Clip limit is reached?

    Best to re-post current SMC3 settings each time you change them.
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    My PWMrev is at 150 the same as my PWMmax now and still not working. Could the problem be my motor controller board?? I will posy pictures later because my problem is 2 story's below me.

    Thank for the help
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    I would have expected your PWMax to be higher, and Fpwm to be 25kHz.
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    I'd swap the motor controllers on the motors and see where the problem ends up.
    Does it stay with motor 1 or swap to motor 2?
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    I have not switched motor controllers yet, that will be my next task.

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    Could this possibly be the problem (miss match of ver)

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