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Confused with 2.0 Licenses

Discussion in 'SimTools DIY Version' started by DSSxSIM, Jan 9, 2017.

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  1. DSSxSIM

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    it so happy to see 2.0 online, but I'm serious confused with those licence.
    1. why DIY Licences($149) cost more than Professional License($69)?
    2.what "Commercial Use Permitted" means?
    DSSxSIM, Jan 9, 2017
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    if you build(t) a DIY simulator (not similar when you assembled a kit from a vendor) then you go here: https://www.xsimulator.net/request-diy-key-simtools/
    Due to licence "restrictions" you have to request a free key.

    "To qualify for a free license you must be building a true DIY motion simulator.
    A Motion Simulator that is not built from a kit or purchased from a simulator seller."
    Pit, Jan 9, 2017
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  3. Historiker

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    You must also have documented your DIY build in the DIY Motion Simulator Projects section to qualify for a DIY free key.
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  4. DSSxSIM

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    Let me try to clear it.
    If I post a project here, I can request for a Free DIY Licence key.
    If I bought someone's Sim, I don't have the original project to post, I should pay for DIY Licence.

    I want extra function like Video Ride Player, I need to pay Professional License.
    If I built a motion sim and I want to sell it bundle with Simtools, I need to buy a Professional License key.

    for Entertainment License, it comes if I earn money like arcade games, maybe play 15min cost $10 something like that.

    so..correct?
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    DSSxSIM, Jan 9, 2017
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  6. DSSxSIM

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    These questions should be asked in that thread so everyone can share in the discussion.
    Historiker, Jan 9, 2017
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  8. yobuddy

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    The DIY License is meant to be free and not purchased.
    I didn't want people accidentally buying it, that's why the stated value went up.
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    I have my discount code and "buyed" a free license. Where can see my license for registration?
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  10. yobuddy

    yobuddy Well-Known Member Staff Member Moderator SimAxe Beta Tester SimTools Developer Gold Contributor

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    it gets emailed to you...
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    I received the discount code but no the license
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  12. yobuddy

    yobuddy Well-Known Member Staff Member Moderator SimAxe Beta Tester SimTools Developer Gold Contributor

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    Use the discount code on SimTools.us to get your DIY license buddy.
    yobuddy, Jan 10, 2017
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    Thanks, tried again, but now said "This discount is not active."
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    ok so it must have gone thru.
    let me know if you don't get an email.
    Be sure to check any spam folder you may have also.
    Just incase it ended up there.
    yobuddy
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    Thank you very much yobuddy, perhaps don fill my mail at checkout...
    Javo5, Jan 10, 2017
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  16. yobuddy

    yobuddy Well-Known Member Staff Member Moderator SimAxe Beta Tester SimTools Developer Gold Contributor

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    well give it a few, buzz me later if you get nothing man.
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    I find it! Loosed in a ton of unwanted mail, sorry and thanks again.
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    As I understand, the free DIY license(which I received in a couple of minutes after asking for it on the website, congrats !) doesn't cover GameDash. It is a shame, as Dash are used by many DIYers. I myself develop dash using arduino (CarDashX, and DashX2 soon), but also plugins. When developing plugins, I test the dash values I populate are relevant and work nicely. Do you plan to have a DIY Developper license ? This adds value to the plugins IMHO.
    Really, I am about to buy a pro license because you deserve it fully by your involvment to the community. BUT others may be annoyed by the status change of GameDash model.

    My 2 cents.
    V.
    vthinsel, Jan 11, 2017
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    Hello,

    > This adds value to the plugins IMHO.

    Isn't there enough value in the free DIY license?

    See it from another view:

    You as a developer probably knows what it means to add only one new feature to a software. It must be tested, debugged, verified if its still working after updating and so on. This costs time and money. If he puts all the requested features into another DIY version who would do a purchase of the pro version?

    > Really, I am about to buy a pro license because you deserve it fully by your involvement to the community

    I am sure @yobuddy would be pleased if you like to do so:)

    All the best to you
    RaceRay, Jan 11, 2017
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    Nice talking to you. I have mixed feelings on this topic, which others may also experience:

    - As a legacy user, I could be disappointed to see a feature I used to have for free requiring me to go for a Pro version.
    - As an active community member recognising the hard work you have all invested in v2.0 :thumbs I'm happy to support you and go for Pro version (I just did it @yobuddy, 68,45€ :cool:)
    - "Tout travail mérite salaire" = "All work deserves to be rewarded" => Go for Pro !
    - As a dev willing to add value to simtools v2 I'm sad to see I have to pay (or I just don't implement dash values in the plugin, which would be a shame). This could refrain the virtuous circle of good wills adding plugins and value, making simtools less attractive.

    v2 looks disruptive in many ways, including the licensing model (more open and versatile through axes/interfaces plugins, buttkick approaching, etc etc...) which looks like to generate more money for good reasons . I guess you had to make this transition but it may be disappointing/frustrating for some.

    Note: now I'm a "pro" user, I'm fully ready to migrate my plugins to v2 including dash values. I just need the game plugin samples for UDP :p

    Thanks again for your dedication !
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