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Question DIY 6 DOF Car Simulator, Flight Sim from Alibaba advice

Discussion in 'Commercial Simulators and Peripherie' started by Rezponse, Feb 8, 2025 at 14:47.

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    Hi All,

    New here and chasing some advice, been reading loads over the last few weeks but have some questions in regards to building a 6dof platform, mainly for car racing, but also for the occasional arcade style flying games.

    I've been looking at this kit from Alibaba. It looks good but I'm not sure "how" good it actually is. Been chatting to the seller, who says its top quality, but they'll tell you anything,

    Anybody used the below? Thoughts on it?

    The company is Ningbo Simracing Technology Co., Ltd. from Alibaba. It's not letting me post a link

    Thanks guys

    Daniel
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    Thanks for the reply.

    I believe the title is
    "Racing Sim Rig Shifter Car Racing Simulator Seat 6 DOF Motion Platform 220AC Servo Moto for Simtools racing games Simulator"

    Once I get to 3 posts, I'll be able to share the link.
    Rezponse, Feb 9, 2025 at 03:14
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    Actually, that link you posted is the company that makes the kit I'm talking about.
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    Make clear which software you have to use. Because this combined Surge and Tractionloss Setup is not common. And with only 58mm vertical actuators, it will be only good for roadsurface haptics and a little bit of sway.
    Misanthrop, Feb 9, 2025 at 12:49
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    Oh Right, So not that good then! Lucky I asked. I cant find any info on google about it.

    Whats a decent all round kit? Im guessing I'm looking for alot more than 58mm actuators then.
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    The site actually makes software compatibility claims under 'Product Description' if you read through it, stating: Simhub, Simtools, flypt racing games racing/flight Simulator

    But what is not clear is if there is included hardware to interface the rig with those control software options, which is normally separate from the servo controllers themselves, because in the DIY world that often is required for servos: https://www.xsimulator.net/community/faq/amc-aasd15a-servo-controller.351/

    It would be something to clarify before considering purchase.
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    Thanks, I've just asked them that question. Aswell as the concern with only 58mm travel.

    I'm a little confused, What's the best type of motion simulators? From what I can find, Actuators are the best, but there is so many conflicting posts on google. Basically my main thing would be car racing, but I would like to do the arcade style Flight games.

    Would a budget of 6k AUD be okay? Trying to keep the whole setup under 10k AUD. DIY is possible also.

    Thank you for your help.
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    Just spoke to them, they have the option of 150mm actuators
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    Best is a relative term to the criteria used to judge it.

    It is more a question of what fits your budget and personal preferences, plus commercial convenience Vs DIY elbow grease.

    All motion rigs have some limitations and compromises.

    There is also marketing hype, for example the rig you are looking at is a 3DOF with and additional dedicated surge axis and traction loss.
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    Oh, didn't realise it was only 3dof. FYI, the price with 150mm actuators is $3990 USD.
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    To be clear, 4 of the actuators provide 3DOF, roll, pitch and heave, the surge is a dedicated axis that makes 4DOF, traction loss is not always considered a dedicated DOF, though in this particular configuration I would say it is, as similar to yaw, its is a dedicated axis that in this case is more relevant to race sims, rather than flight sims. That is a bit different to the traditional 6DOF, but for you stated purposes perhaps a bit more focused: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Six_degrees_of_freedom
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    150mm is for the most applications enough. Only for Rally i recommend more then 100mm.

    Simhub and SRS doesn´t support this surge/tractionloss layout
    Misanthrop, Feb 10, 2025 at 13:22
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