Expressions of Interest - Participate in a Kickstarter simulation Project

Hi All,

I am looking at starting a kickstarter or similar project for an innovative motion simulation project.

I would like any expressions of interest for the following:

Project Manager - someone with some ability to manage a kickstarter project and coordinate team efforts, and support mproduct marketing.

Systems integration - designing interfaces between some existing hardware and Motion simulation.

Platform design - Non Technology hardware - frames, bearings etc.

Simulation Hardware and software - servo's and configuration.

Software customisation - as a guide experience in X-Plane plug ins would be welcomed.

Assembly and Testing - a location to do assembly and testing, with a view to possible production and distribution

You had better speak to @yobuddy , @RaceRay about this as your intention looks possibly commercial based so share the right info first thing and we will welcome you.
If you do what others have done, ask, take and then appear later as something you did not tell us, you will receive the wrath of hellhounds on acid.

Thanks bsft,

Will absolutely take the right steps, no intent to hijack, plagiarise, or downright steal, what I do want to try and find is people first, as I find that will make things go faster.

Are you interested, any particular skills you would like to nominate?

I dont have money to donate, but will share some information, but I have some questions......
What frame design do you have in mind?
Is it for flight or race?
What games do you plan to have running?
Do you plan 12v 24v or 240v motor power?
Actuators or motors?
What motor controllers do you have in mind? (obviously depending on voltage of motor/actuator)
Screens static or still?
What market of people are you chasing?
there are a few motion simulator companies going already, so what ideas do you have to make yours more attractive than theirs?
Why should we choose your product over the "others"?
How many other simulator software sites have you asked this on? (x-sim.de site is on the blink so I cannot check there ATM)
I think that starts my curiosity.....

Hi bfst,

Thanks for your interest.

All those questions are straight out of project management 101.

I am a bit reluctant to mention the concept in an open forum, as it seems to me quite easy for it to be implemented by those with greater skills, and I am keen to be involved in what I think is an original idea/implementation.

Would you like me to PM you the concept?

PM me with details as I can supply aluminium profile if you wanted to use this for the platforms. I also have contact for bucket seats, hydrographics and a few other bits. Design of the frame would not be a problem if we can brainstorm for a bit.

Our website is still being built and we have lots of items to list still. I have built a few sim rigs and would be interested in getting involved.

www.kbaluminiumprofile.co.uk

@Mark Mak , if you are not willing to discuss this openly, I find you suspicious. As will the likes of the Simtools developers @eaorobbie ,@value1 , @yobuddy , @RaceRay . So unless you involve them in a private discussion, you can take your interest elsewhere. We have enough people here doing what you intend and they have either spoken directly to the Simtools developers with full blessing, or been exposed as thieves and liars, only looking to gain from others efforts.
Choice is up to you. People like you are not trustworthy in the least. So prove us wrong.
We have had members here also being burnt by the likes of people like you helping them with ideas and then all of a sudden, a commercial company appears and the info they gave is now being sold to someone elses benefit.

And @The ORDL , same goes to you, if you want to PM him, do so and take this elsewhere and find other software.

Kickstarter is a long, long way off. Because no kickstarter campaign is successful without a very viable and fully functional prototype.

I can admire the drive to get something going but as there are so many simulators out there already for pretty much anything it's hard to see what new ground would be broken.

bsft's questions are not complicated project management questions. Most of them are very basic simple initial questions which would easily be answered if the project concept was in any way started or designed even in something as simple as a brainstorming session.

Good luck with your project. I look forward to seeing what new idea you've came up with. For it to be in any way viable you have probably had a patent viability study done by now to see if it's a new idea and that idea isn't already protected.

@bsft Certainly didnt mean to offend. Agree with some of your points but also think that some cards need to be held close to the chest depending on what he has in mind.

I trust people until proven otherwise but I think some here have been in this position before and are talking from experience, as a newcomer to the forum I certainly dont want to tread on any toes or cause friction.

@bsft, thank you kindly for your concern and response. I understand your concerns. Again, I ask you, are you interested in being a part of the project? I would certainly appreciate someone with your passion for the art of simulation. I could choose to not openly identify that i am seeking to harvest willing talent (but I did), I could loiter in the background poaching ideas rather than putting out there that I am seeking valued participation ( but I didnt) or I could just be up front and tell people how I intend to approach (which I did). As @Barry mentioned, I also want to protect peoples efforts ( of course including my own) and publicly stating - here is something i think is cool and valuable and here are all the details, without exploring the patent issues and ensuring I protect the time and knowledge of the willing participants would be just plain dumb.

I respect your right to be cautious based upon experience, but regardless of your undoubted experience and good will in this forum I think it is perfectly unreasonable to then apply it to a person you don't know in a public forum.

Am I interested?
Well then , answer my questions.... At least most of them
And another question , what commercial sims have you played on to be able to compare your upcoming product then?
Why should I speak to you further if you don't answer some basic questions?
Is it because I have not offered money to help?
Information is just as valuable
I have notified Simtools developers so they can watch this thread and your intentions.

Thanks @bsft your offer of assistance is awesome, I will pm you later on today.

Chatting with developers as well so thanks for the reinforcement

Nice job Mark Mak! Yes, you need to go to @yobuddy or @RaceRay to get accurate information on the licenses required. Some members here think they are the “SimTools Police” or something but it doesn’t say SimTools Police in their profile! If they are police then those with authority already please tell us so! But I would think you are welcome to use the free version of SimTools to make an evaluation of it. Otherwise, how would you determine if you are willing to spend the funds to get a commercial license for it vs other software commercially available?

I and I’m sure many other members WELCOME YOU as you are without the need to grill you for further information and the like before doing so! And you have stated your intentions from the get go! So if there are members that have problems with them, then they don’t need to comment on your thread then. Some seem to always be worried about commercial interest taking advantage of them, but they just don’t seem to understand all they have to do is keep their pie holes shut then otherwise it becomes public domain (in the USA anyway and unless it is already protected under law)! I used to think this was the “friendlier” site of the two, but I’m now reevaluating that assessment!

Please, @yobuddy and @RaceRay , state what the requirements are for commercial use so those who may be interested are assured of accurate information regarding all licenses. If you have already done so please share the link here. If commercial interest is not welcomed here, then please state that too! Thank You.

Thanks @BlazinH ,

I like people who are protective of their resources, it means if you ask them to help you, they will be careful of your resources as well

Interested in discussing participation in the concept through PM?

Hi Rene, thank you for your welcome advice and supportive response

Thanks for offering to talk but I must decline because of possible conflicts of interest in the future.

Thanks for responding @RaceRay and clearing things up to some extent. But I guess the team has not determined pre-set costs for commercial use. You may have more interest with people considering SimTools for commercial usage if you were to openly state its costs to them. Not only for comparison purposes with other motion software, but also, more may become interested in trying to develop commercial products if they knew what costs they were facing when they would prefer using SimTools. That’s my opinion anyway but I know you have your own reasons for doing things the way you do.

Makes perfect sense! Thanks for filling us in @RaceRay.