Flight Sim DoF Priorities

Origamikid · Mar 25, 2015

I'm in the conceptual stage of a new design and I'm curious what this community believes is the ranking of importance. On my sketches right now I have roughly +/- 60 deg roll and +/- 30 deg pitch; I'm trying to see if I can make a compact design that is passable as a normal office chair when not in motion. However I've never owned a motion sim so I don't know where the different "break points" are in tiers of experience.

Feedback welcome.

bsft · Mar 25, 2015

Build something like this
http://digilander.libero.it/tornadoblu5/en/index1.htm

noorbeast · Mar 25, 2015

My sim doubles as an office chair when not in use: http://www.xsimulator.net/community/threads/dx-racer-compact-simulator.5866/

I don't believe you need as much movement as you are planning.

Origamikid · Mar 25, 2015

Hmm, I'm going for a similar movement to a joyrider (center of rotation above CG). I'm not sure what range I need but it's intended for space/combat flight sims so my intuition was to get the roll somewhat strong. If I could afford a continuous rotation I'd honestly be trying to do that! If I went to 3 DoF what is next in importance?

noorbeast · Mar 25, 2015

The 3DOF priority for a flight sim would be heave.

Origamikid · Mar 25, 2015

Thanks for the help. Heave seems very tricky on a budget, I might just have to leave it out for version 1. I also think I mis-estimated and could get about 30 deg pitch total, not each direction so hopefully that's enough.

noorbeast · Mar 25, 2015

For sure heave is not simple, but worth considering for flight.

I think @SeatTime's seat based heave plate is about the cheapest and simplest approach to heave: http://www.xsimulator.net/community/threads/seattimes-dc-motor-sim.5024/page-7#post-56322

Origamikid · Mar 25, 2015

Do you think there is any special considerations that could be made to optimize it as a space sim? Besides of course putting it on a gryo platform to simulate 0 g which is WAY beyond my budget (space and $).

noorbeast · Mar 25, 2015

For a space sim the most important thing is how the forces are done in the plugin. As an example @value1 has done a great job of the Elite Dangerous plugin.

I think VR is an obvious choice for a space sim.

Design wise consider things that can be made to give additional sustained motion cues, like the race harness, as that and something like my quasi surge table together can simulate a sustained 'burn' type effect for a space sim.

Origamikid · Mar 26, 2015

Do you have a link for the quasi surge? Not quite sure what that would be.

noorbeast · Mar 26, 2015

Sure, here you go @Origamikid : http://www.xsimulator.net/community/threads/dx-racer-compact-simulator.5866/page-3#post-63007

It is designed to move all of the controls relative to the user, using surge. I have all the bits to add the arduino now and will do that when I next pull my sim apart. Then I get to find out if the 40kg servos can cut it or not. If not then I will look and making some voice coil actuators.

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