FOVE EYE TRACKING VR HEADSET

www.getfove.com

Pre-orders begin in 4 days...

If this VR google would support Oculus Rift games it could be a worth of cost game changer for all 2D users .

EYE TRACKING SENSORS
Infrared eye tracking system × 2

• Tracking accuracy: less than 1 degree
• Frame rate: 120fps

OTHER TRACKING SENSORS
Orientation tracking and Position tracking

Better resolution than the Rift but same FOV.

Any suggestions, eg. from you @noorbeast?

thank you @noorbeast for sharing your view. BTW it seems that I am not the only one who hesitate to buy a VR at the moment, according to Steam VR the number of sales is close to zero the last few months, very sparse growth finally. In deed the VR is not yet sophisticated, technically limited, entered too early on the market, also (still) too expensive. PS: Fove is way cheaper than all other googles, I forgot to mention it.

Although I'm a certified tech nut, this does not surprise me, if it was not for my sim, after trying out the 'Tech Demos' I would not be using CV1 -would have just sold it- and likely the same would of happened with DK2 and I would not have purchased CV1. It surprises me that the one thing that it works excellent at (motion + VR) 'they' (Oculus etc) have no interest in? (I although realise that we are just a small group) Plenty of people have now tried CV1 at my home and while everyone is very impressed with the motion rig and VR as they work so perfectly together, they don't like the all up cost. As for the standard VR 'Tech Demo' - if it does not make them sick, they just are not that impressed to want to purchase one and suddenly have comments about - god rays, low Res + all up cost (CV1 + high end computer). If VR was really 'here' then I would be using it to type this comment - which I am not - unfortunately that really says it all. This is not saying that I'm against VR, just frustrated that that these so call 'smart people' are really quite dumb. I really hope they get their shi% together, as I for one would like to see VR be a success and not just fade away like 3D TVs.

what he says, this is just the beginning the really interesting stuff is yet to come. Hopefully they have the "long breath" (German expression) for the next few years...

Ps: I was looking for the right synonym, "long breath" means long wind lol

Takes me back to when lasers were first being released into industry and I was 'playing' with one up at Sydney tech - use to have to physically align the mirrors at each end of the tube to make it lase. The comment from everyone was 'interesting tech, but what will it ever be used for?' Lets hope VR can stay viable while Michael Abrash's visions forms.

I'm not a VR fan, I'm a simdriving fan. As a simdriving fan, to me VR could even die now if only it keeps on working on - at least - Assetto Corsa.
I don't even know how now new games/apps work in VR, I don't even care.

I know this is OT, it's just to say that whatever the new VR hmd... just has to support Assetto Corsa, otherwise is useless (to me)

lol, [OT] similar thoughts come to my mind. BTW so far I was playing AC only in 3D (VSION), since the Version 1.9 Kunos "killed" the screen refresh rates, since then I am sitting in front of my triple screens like a hungry dog staring into the empty food bowl...[/OT OFF]

To be honest, sometimes I wonder if these guys are a bunch of tech nerds with a lack of business acumen. There are so many (too?) great brains working on Oculus Rift that I would think they should be farther than where they are today. In my eyes, the roadblock currently is not (overly) sophisticated iris tracking with shape compensation or threedimentional sound echoes but – ehm, cost for example. I was contemplating about buying a pair fo these diving goggles. However it will cost me over 2'000 bucks including inevitable upgrading of my PC

What one typically does to overcome the difficulties of the life cycle curve is to slice the development in smaller curves and rather than go for the big curve go for many smaller steps. With this you can keep a good part of the Business Gain in the Vital Life area. I'd buy a VR for 500 bucks and in a year an upgrade for aonther 500 bucks, etc. Whith this continuous stream of income one can maintain the R&D cost and the long breath (stamina).

It’s possible though. The biggest problem with 3dtv being adopted was the technology was launched before it was really ready. I would have to say the same thing about VR (even though this is really the second attempt at launching VR).

Another problem with 3dtv adoption was that by the time standards were developed, DLP televisions disappeared from the market in favor of LCD sets. But LCD screen refresh rates at the time were to slow for 3d, at least for anything over 24htz per eye. So that killed gaming on them and led to the hdmi 1.4 standard of 24htz for 3dtv. Old DLP tv’s on the other hand can run 3d at 60htz per eye without issue on hdmi 1.3.

Whenever I can find a used 61” or 67” Samsung 3d DLP tv that uses LED laser arrays instead of light bulbs that can burn out I buy it. With nvidia’s 3dvision the 3d rendering on them is perfection. And sets that sold for over $2000 in 2008 (the last year Samsung made them) can now be had for a couple hundred bucks or less. I own 8 of them so far (not sure what I’m going to do with them all yet though, lol).

These tvs were only advertised as 3d ready though since the technology was so new and they didn't have a built in emitter or come with 3d shutter glasses. Unless you had a computer with 3d capabilities or a special checkboard 3d DVD player it didn’t work. What’s ironic is these are the best and biggest monitors you can get for 3d gaming but not one of the people I bought mine from even knew or at least remembered that they were capable of doing 3d because they never did it.

I agree price is often an inhibiting factor with new technologies since early adopters largely pay for the research and development costs of a new product. But I also think its because people are skeptical about spending a lot of money on something that they have not experienced before. Even if they have, if they started out with a lousy experience then the skepticism remains.

For example, in 2009 I bought a 2008 Samsung LED 3dtv in order to use it with 3d Vision, as I have no interest in 3d movies. I was excited to get it because it was the last year for hdmi 1.3 and because it also had a checkerboard 3d option. Checkerboard 3d is the standard for dlp tvs and projectors and allowed me to get 1920 x 1080 @60htz resolution from 3d Vision’s dlp setting whereas other 3d methods required the use of nvidia’s 3d Play, which has a max resolution of only 1280 x 720 @60htz. But my excitement soon diminished because although I had good resolution, the screens refresh rate was to slow to keep up with 60htz per eye. So I always saw a double or ghost image just like you do when you’re not wearing shutter glasses, only with less intensity. It sucked!

Then around 2001 I ran across a forum about the Samsung DLP 3dtv’s and how much their owners loved their 3d capabilities with gaming. So I kept my eyes open for a used one to pop up since they quit making them in 2008. Once I found one and got a change to test it with 3d Vision my jaw dropped! Wow, it was amazing. And not only did the depth appear to go into the tv, but it popped out of the screen too, and with perfect clarity. When I attempted to touch where the image appeared to be outside of the screen, of course all that was there was air.

So my feeling is I think 3d for gaming may have taken off more if it wasn’t for the fact that they quit making dlp tv’s that were capable of rendering beautiful 3d for gaming at the same time 3d movies were coming out and creating a buzz about 3d. And 3d Vision had just launched on the Vista OS in 2008 also and it had its own problems. Mainly poor driver support since all manufactures had to create new drivers for their products to work again. So by the time good 3d monitors for gaming came about again the buzz was over not to mention they were small and expensive monitors. Also, just like it takes a new and expensive video card to drive VR these days, the same was true trying to drive 3d Vision in 2008. So if your first experience with 3d was with what was mostly available, a weak video card and a slow LCD screen, that experience was less than stellar and didn’t leave you lusting for more.

So I’ve always wondered how many people that don’t think much of 3d for gaming have actually had a proper experience with it. With a 61” 3d dlp monitor that’s situated a meter in front of you, it more than covers your field of focus. And with head tracking you can look around. So while I haven’t got to try VR goggles yet, I have a hard time imagining how it can be that much, if any, better than what I already have now. And a big plus to 3d Vision is it doesn’t require special driver support since its uses the same information that video cards use to render 3d in 2d and works with just about every game title. Another plus is you can still look around to get your keyboard or see what you are reaching for.

Anyway, I hope the all buzz for VR is not over before they get the various issues sorted out.

and you forgot Sony (with all the Console ecosystem)

Having many different manufactures when there aren’t standards for VR may not be a good thing though. Will you need to have one manufactures VR for one game and another manufactures VR for another and so on? If I were to invest in VR goggles to replace 3d Vision it better work with every new game title capable of VR, not just a few here and there.