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Bug Just in time debugging and no connecting simtools engine to manager

Discussion in 'SimTools DIY Version' started by JDEWizard, Jul 15, 2023.

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  1. JDEWizard

    JDEWizard New Member Gold Contributor

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    Hi All,
    I have loaded simtools v2,
    I receive an error window (unhandled Exception). plus, Simtools Engine does not connect to the manager.
    I have read most of the forums.
    But I have not seen it that showed both issues.
    I have done the debug route and turned off antivirus and reinstall the simtools .
    may sure simtools v2.
    But I have the same issue. Have I miss something?
    ***************
    See the end of this message for details on invoking
    just-in-time (JIT) debugging instead of this dialog box.
    ************** Exception Text **************
    System.NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object.
    at SimTools_GameEngine.frm_TuningCenter.LoadGameList()
    at SimTools_GameEngine.frm_GameEngine.frmMain_Load(Object sender, EventArgs e)
    at System.EventHandler.Invoke(Object sender, EventArgs e)
    at System.Windows.Forms.Form.OnLoad(EventArgs e)
    at System.Windows.Forms.Form.OnCreateControl()
    at System.Windows.Forms.Control.CreateControl(Boolean fIgnoreVisible)
    at System.Windows.Forms.Control.CreateControl()
    at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WmShowWindow(Message& m)
    at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WndProc(Message& m)
    at System.Windows.Forms.ScrollableControl.WndProc(Message& m)
    at System.Windows.Forms.Form.WmShowWindow(Message& m)
    at System.Windows.Forms.Form.WndProc(Message& m)
    at System.Windows.Forms.Control.ControlNativeWindow.OnMessage(Message& m)
    at System.Windows.Forms.Control.ControlNativeWindow.WndProc(Message& m)
    at System.Windows.Forms.NativeWindow.Callback(IntPtr hWnd, Int32 msg, IntPtr wparam, IntPtr lparam)
    ************** Loaded Assemblies **************
    mscorlib
    Assembly Version: 4.0.0.0
    Win32 Version: 4.8.4644.0 built by: NET48REL1LAST_B
    CodeBase: file:///C:/Windows/Microsoft.NET/Framework/v4.0.30319/mscorlib.dll
    ----------------------------------------


    Any help would appreciated
    JDE Wizard
    JDEWizard, Jul 15, 2023
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  2. yobuddy

    yobuddy Well-Known Member Staff Member Moderator SimAxe Beta Tester SimTools Developer Gold Contributor

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    Did you maybe install a v3 plugin into v2?
    Maybe you have the full log?
    yobuddy, Jul 16, 2023
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    JDEWizard New Member Gold Contributor

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    yoboddy,
    Thanks for the reply.
    I had download simtools v2.
    After I got loaded, I could see most things. Then it wouldn't connect to manager.
    I had figure maybe I need to load plug-in.
    I downloaded iRacing dragged and drop it in.
    No issues
    Then went and checked it was not in the file in simtools.
    I watched videos of the cause of jit but none of them was the problem.
    Cuz, of being desperate I did download Simtools v3.
    In the meantime I did find some videos on the v3.
    I was able load iRacing.
    I followed the video as closely as possible.
    I have all the screens and loaded. but it will not let me test the settings.
    loaded SMC3 and retested it is working.
    I have up loaded screen shots.
    any Help would be appreciated !!!

    JDEWizard

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  4. yobuddy

    yobuddy Well-Known Member Staff Member Moderator SimAxe Beta Tester SimTools Developer Gold Contributor

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    Where did you download the plugin from?
    V2 plugin are on xsimulator.net, and v3 plugin are downloaded thru the app or from simtools.us.

    For now don't use the axis limiting section (screenshot 39).
    And for now leave (screenshot 40) page set to linear.

    Next can I see the axis assignments for the game?
    Chat soon,
    yobuddy
    Last edited: Jul 18, 2023
    yobuddy, Jul 17, 2023
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  5. JDEWizard

    JDEWizard New Member Gold Contributor

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    yobubby,
    Thanks for your reply
    I plugin Iracing thought the v3 app.

    here is the screen shot of the axis assignments

    Thanks
    JDE Wizard

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  6. yobuddy

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    I'm not sure what your sim looks like, but I suggest doing one DOF at a time.
    Like start with surge, get it working, and then set it to 0 while we do sway.
    Just getting surge and sway working on the sim will help a ton.

    So maybe put surge on axis 1 and 2 at 50%, and then run the game and see if its working correctly.
    If its backwards, then click the 'Dir' button on both surge assignments to flip the direction of the DOF.
    Give it a try and let me know how it goes buddy.
    Take care,
    yobuddy
    yobuddy, Jul 18, 2023
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  7. JDEWizard

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    yobubby,

    I cut all the number back to 0 except for surge at 50%.
    I tired a test no movement.
    I tired in the game again no movement
    it acts as the program in not going to Arduino.
    SMC3 is working for the test. if that helps?

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    JDEWizard, Jul 18, 2023
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  8. JDEWizard

    JDEWizard New Member Gold Contributor

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    A few specs of my rigg .
    has arduino uno r3
    3 ) IBT2 motor drivers
    3) 24 volt 350w motors with 32.1 ratio. ( has 2.75 center hole the center hole arms .)
    3) 24 inverters 450w

    Pictures are attached

    Should I uninstall Simtools v2 from the computor? would it help?

    Thanks For your help!!!

    JDE Wizard

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  9. yobuddy

    yobuddy Well-Known Member Staff Member Moderator SimAxe Beta Tester SimTools Developer Gold Contributor

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    Do you mean that in SimTools v3, you have Motion Interface testing working?
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    No, I have not got Simtools v3 Working.
    I was just saying that the Arduino is communicating with my computor when testing with the SMC3.
    The simtools v3 is not working.

    JDEWizard
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    So we need to setup a motion Interface in SimTools. Let's setup Motion Interface #1 in SimTools v3.
    (If you need to, you can install the Serial Plugin from the plugin manager - under Interface plugins)
    Click the hamburger menu, and then select Interface Setup, then select the serial plugin.
    upload_2023-7-17_19-4-39.png


    The settings for the smc3 sketch is found toward the bottom of the first post here.
    https://www.xsimulator.net/communit...3dof-motor-driver-and-windows-utilities.4957/

    but here is the pic.
    [​IMG]

    Now after you fill out the form and hit save, click the Test Settings button and see if it is now working.
    (Be sure that the SMC3 app is not running)
    Please give this a try, and see if we can get the interface setup and tested.
    Please let me know how it goes.
    yobuddy
    yobuddy, Jul 18, 2023
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    JDEWizard New Member Gold Contributor

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    Good Morning yobubby,
    I have inputted the information as above in my #1 interface . in which was a little different than what I had .
    I tried a test. I heard a beep, and code came up.
    I have attached screen shots.

    I am so sorry that this has became a problem!!

    I do Thank You for the help!!

    JDE Wizard

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    update!!!
    Some how my usb plug came loose from the Arduino.
    I re-installed and retested.
    I have one motor working.! yes it works.
    I will check on the other one this morning, and update you.

    Thank You so much!!

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    JDEWizard New Member Gold Contributor

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    update
    I have my right motor working. roll, surge, etc.
    but I can not get my left one to work.
    it will park. but that is it.
    Any ideas what I am be missing?

    Thanks
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    yobuddy Well-Known Member Staff Member Moderator SimAxe Beta Tester SimTools Developer Gold Contributor

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    It's totally ok buddy, it's what I'm here for. :thumbs

    This means interface could not start error.
    (but you know that, just here for others)

    Swap the leads with the two motors, does the second motor now work?
    Or does the original motor still work?
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    JDEWizard New Member Gold Contributor

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    I tried swapping motor leads from to right to left motor.
    The left motor would lift up. ( I did not swap the pot switches)
    I also in simtools program test. I rotated the pot. switch, on the left motor and the motor move in that direction. ( after I returned the wires back)

    I Then replace the IBT 2 driver. on the left motor. still the same. ( I had spares for just in case)
    I don't think it is the motor. cause when I do a test in the smc3 program it hits all the marks and is strong.
    and it will stay at park 5- 10 minutes until I turn it off.
    :(
    I am Lost!!


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    yobuddy Well-Known Member Staff Member Moderator SimAxe Beta Tester SimTools Developer Gold Contributor

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    It looks like you have a space in your interface output line.
    "B< Axis2a>" and it should be "B<Axis2a>" (no space) - the space is after the 'B<'
    upload_2023-7-18_13-19-40.png
    yobuddy, Jul 18, 2023
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    That was it :thumbs The testing and getting the motors working.

    Now I tried to load into Iracing.
    Iracing loads but not motion.

    **What do I it need to do, to make sure I have downloaded the game correctly?**

    And Thank You for the help on the motors.
    it appears that largely it was the space in the interface code.
    go figure!!!

    Thanks Again :grin
    JDE Wizard
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    Awesome!

    You can install game plugins from the plugin manager (bottom right of the main page).
    But game plugins also offer updates anyway, so if its out of date, you will get a little Up arrow in the upper left of the game banner.

    You can also download plugins from simtools.us, and then drag-drop them into the main page of the app.

    Now that both axis are working, you can configure and test your axis assignments for Iracing.
    Once everything is configured correctly, then give the game a go.
    Your defiantly getting close buddy!

    Yes, micro-controllers are very finicky about such things.
    it's an easy fix once we noticed it thou.

    Anytime :thumbs
    yobuddy, Jul 19, 2023
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    I am sending you this reply too you !!!

    With your help, directing me in the right direction. I have my rig up and running.
    I thank You so much!!

    Thanking for you patience with me on my issues.
    Your a great person to help so many people with their issues.
    Day in and out!!:thumbs

    Again Thank You
    JDE Wizard
    see you around!!!!:grin
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