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Modifying Zigzag49's 6DOF Compact Sim

Discussion in 'DIY Motion Simulator Building Q&A / FAQ' started by Zyadox, Nov 18, 2015.

  1. Zyadox

    Zyadox New Member

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    Hello everyone! I wanted to bounce some ideas off you all regarding Zigzag49's clean, compact, and innovative 6DOF simbuild:

    http://www.xsimulator.net/community/threads/6dof-dc-24v-smolka-zigzag49.7490/

    His creative design solutions have given me hope that I can fit a 6DOF sim in my studio apartment space. :p

    In his thread you can see that you he uses rather small threaded rods and connectors to his DC motors. Do you believe the 24v motors and PSUs he has chosen could handle a larger degree of motion with a similar weight load if we were to lengthen the rods and their connectors to the DC motor?

    It seems that his sim's limited degrees of motion are very conducive to responsive driving simulation, but wouldn't offer too large range of motion when it come to flight simulation. I think I'd like to adapt what he has made into a compact flight sim, but would need to modify the sizes of the rods a little. I'm not sure if that would demand too much of the motors though.. Also I may go the JRK route instead of his arduino to save on needing to wire and code too much.

    Any thoughts or insight into the matter would be greatly appreciated! Thank you all for your expertise on the topic.
    Zyadox, Nov 18, 2015
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  2. noorbeast

    noorbeast VR Tassie Devil Staff Member Moderator Race Director

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    @zigzag49 is in the best position to comment on the actual capacity of the design with increased axis range.

    Personally I would think that with a compact design there are very real limits to the axis range.

    I am not sure if you mean lengthen the motor lever length but if you do then you trade torque for speed and range.

    You could consider adding gas struts to compensate for additional load, as @SilentChill has done with his DC powered 6DOF rig, which may give some addition options in terms of design, axis range and load capacity.
    noorbeast, Nov 18, 2015
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  3. zigzag49

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    Hi
    The job simulator 120 ° on its axis, it was designed to minimize the efforts of the engines, I would advise to stay on the same kind of working range with smolka.
    To date my simulator was modified in such seat mover (update coming in my post) so moin weight and effort on the inertia, the dampers are able to be removed.
    In your case it suits very well for a flight simulator is to the repetitive movements will moin, more flexible and range could be increased with a working range 180 °.
    The engines smolka My simulator does sell more silentchill the solution is very good and just be adapted to your needs by reducing it size make some thing more compact.;)
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    I see - thank you for the quick reply, guys! It seems like I will need to think of possible solutions to alleviate the motors. Gas struts seem like a good place to start, I'll keep doing more research.


    Thank you again, everyone!
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  5. momoclic

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    L'usage de ressort serai bien préférable et plus efficace que des vérins à gaz, comme l'a fait Zigzag49...

    The spring would be far better use and more efficient than gas springs, as did Zigzag49 ...
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    momoclic, Nov 19, 2015
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  6. zigzag49

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    Exact momoclic.
    Un verrin à gaz ne fera que retenir les mouvements donc faire travailler encore plus les moteurs.

    Exact momoclic.
    A gas strut will only retain so movements do work even engines.
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    zigzag49, Nov 20, 2015
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