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Plugin for simulador aereo de combate

Discussion in 'New users start here - FAQ' started by Arianus One, Apr 27, 2018.

  1. Arianus One

    Arianus One Tony Rom

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    Anyone know of any current or old combat flight simulator that works its plugin for 2dof on 2018, please put game and version to get it.
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    noorbeast VR Tassie Devil Staff Member Moderator Race Director

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    War Thunder is a combat flight sim with motion plugin, it also has the option of using Extra 1 and Extra 2 in place of roll and pitch: https://www.xsimulator.net/community/marketplace/war-thunder-plugin.176/

    DCS 1.5 also works with motion, but setting up a good motion profile can take some time, as it does not have the option of Extra 1 and Extra 2, so you have to use filters to mitigate the effects of roll and pitch at their inversion points: https://www.xsimulator.net/community/marketplace/digital-combat-simulator-–-dcs-plugin.16/

    You will likely need a little bit of Dead Zone in addition to using Gain and Return filters in a DCS profile.
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  3. Arianus One

    Arianus One Tony Rom

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    I will investigate what you say !!
    The plugin that I downloaded last week works badly of warthunder, I will try dcs 1.5
    Tthe plugin called joystick that I use in games without you own plugin took me several hours until I hit it with the key, ha ha
    and thanks to you I was able to get to know how to do it !!
    Do you know if there is a tutorial of dead zone, smooting, gain, boundary, and return filters? only I understood the smooting that softened the movement of the simulator.
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    Arianus One Tony Rom

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    Sorry i little english i speak spanish.My english is poor !! I use google translator
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    The War Thunder plugin works fine, it is likely your settings that are the problem. It takes time and experience to configure motion profiles.

    As I mentioned in a different reply to you here are the steps to creating and refining motion profiles: https://www.xsimulator.net/community/faq/steps-to-create-a-motion-profile.228/

    The main differences to race sim motion profiles is that for flight you can likely get away with a higher Axis Allocation total on the primary pitch and roll axis, and you definitely will need to use filters, particularly Gain and Return. Your Tuning Center values will also be much larger for a flight profile than a race profile.

    Some flight plugins like War Thunder give you the choice of using Extra 1 and Extra 2 in place of roll and pitch and instead of reversing on the axis at the inversion point of a roll or loop Extra 1 and Extra 2 will hold the attitude until the joystick is released.

    The use of filters and how much varies depending on the plugin and rig, but this handy tool lets you visualise the effects of filters: https://www.xsimulator.net/community/faq/axis-analysis-app.282/
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  6. Arianus One

    Arianus One Tony Rom

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    wartunder:
    I thought that the plugins already came with the settings configured well, except, in cases that do not work as you want and that's why they touch,
    as is the case of dirt and project cars, which only downloads and uses as they came and worked well.
  7. noorbeast

    noorbeast VR Tassie Devil Staff Member Moderator Race Director

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    You can't expect plugin defaults to suit all rigs, there is just too much diversity in motion sims and games.

    All plugins require motion profile tweaks for best motion, some defaults suit some rigs better than others but should still be checked and adjusted as needed.
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  8. Arianus One

    Arianus One Tony Rom

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    dcs world 1.5: I worked on 1.5 the plugin but would you have a profile with the filters touched to download it or any screen capture?

    dcs 1.5.8 downloaded April 26, 2018 Unmanageable and bad response to controls in any moments, probe filters gain return and smoting in low, midlle and high values, dead zone too, even without filter probe, but nothing, worse yet, Thank you very much I still like ja
    I continue with warthunder to see if I can with that.
    Have a recent simu 2dof buy to other person.
    And I do not know about this yet, I'm just learning
    Best regards and sorry for bothering you so much
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  9. value1

    value1 Nerd SimAxe Beta Tester SimTools Developer Gold Contributor

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    Really, @Arianus One, get to know how to setup your profiles first! RTFM!