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Discussion in 'DIY Motion Simulator Projects' started by Milton, Nov 24, 2015.

  1. bruce stephen

    bruce stephen Hammer doesnt fix it, must be electrical

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    in v1.3 you can have axis assignment presets. under axis assignments presets. in game engine. click preset/create preset.

    yes 1 setup for each game minimum.
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  2. BlazinH

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    Oh. I thought you meant different tuning center settings for different cars/tracks.
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    bruce stephen Hammer doesnt fix it, must be electrical

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    that would be an awsome option. im sure theres a better way rather than writing it down/screen shot.
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    Ok so that track has next to nothing for pitch and roll changes, so somewhat forget about the Pitch and roll, Start with heave or Extra 2 for Iracing specifically. (I hope you have it assigned properly in the Axis %'s) So that little racer your driving Should be giving you back some surface detail so This is where it gets personal, YOU need to determine the level of surface detail that car should be giving you, Its nothing Anyone can tell you, its personal preference. Adjust as needed. Then move on to Sway, Realize the Faster you go into a corner and the More Steering lock you add *Pending traction on tires That Sway # will grow. You want sway to be a nice linear force, Not a Herky Jerky roller coaster ride. This is again where it requires some finesse in driving and monitoring the data being output to essentially figure it all out in your head that A negative value on this number is THIS exact feeling in game.

    Once you start to put it all together, it starts to make sense.

    And remember TURN OFF ALL other forces, TEST ONE FORCE at a time.....your brain is too fresh to motion to pick up on wrong cues when everything is mixed in together. Doing 1 at a time may seem a little boring As your doing it, But once you assemble it all and turn on all those prefered #'s....it all clicks.
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  5. bruce stephen

    bruce stephen Hammer doesnt fix it, must be electrical

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    HINT: If you save a replay in iracing. when you go to watch it, through the member site, it will give you motion without having to repeat the drive. giving consistent results.
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    One preset per game is what I meant ( you probably missed it in the long post). :)
    Each game has a different plugin anyway.

    For such instances as long races you can change the overall percentage of each plugin and tune the values to your comfort.
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    I do all my dof mixing with custom software, not in Simtools. So I output 100% of each dof on an individual axis and send it to my software where it does the mixing. But I suppose if I made my default profiles using 75% instead of 100% then I would have some wiggle room for different axis assignments too.

    However, I have sliders in my software that adjust the intensities of each dof that are also adjustable via a custom button box on my rig so adjusting profiles can be done on the fly to tweak them for different cars and tracks already.

    As far as Simtools 2.0, I don’t think it would be that difficult to make it so you could load different tuning settings on the fly too (if possible when your moving). You can already access the tuning center while the game is running so that’s not an issue. Then instead of just being able to save for the game selected in the tuning center (which would be the default profile) you could allow for file name extensions so you could also save car/track names associated with the game selected that could be manually selected from when needed.

    Other method that I thought of that may work also if necessary would be to write a stand alone program that would automatically rename a custom tuning profiles file name to the default name. The program would rename the default profile with a temp name and then rename the custom profile as the default profile. When finished the program would automatically rename them both to their original file names again.
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  8. Milton

    Milton Well-Known Member Gold Contributor

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    You guys are the experts!, I drove the Skip Barber just like I normally drive going to the store very slow making the turns carefully and braking very slow and the surge is now working very smooth and on time, now I will fallow the rest of the good recommendation and finished all the DOF for the Skip Barber and do the same for each car.

    Question: anyone knows how to delete the old presets? see picture for references I want to start fresh with new presets.

    Presets.png
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    Just search to find the location of the files. @BlazinH is much more experienced than me. I just regurgitate what I've read here. As far as custom software, that is beyond my skill set. But it sounds quite precise.
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    Question: anyone knows how to delete the old presets? see picture for references I want to start fresh with new presets.

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    here is the folder C:\Users\YOUR USER\AppData\Local\SimTools\GameEngine\AxesPresets
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  11. BlazinH

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    Go to C:\Users\your_user_name\AppData\Local\SimTools and delete the files you don't want anymore from their folder.
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    You can do a base motion profile and then create tweaked variations of Game Manager profiles for different cars/tracks in the current version of SimTools.

    I usually start with something soft like the Cobra in Assetto Corsa at Nords, then I refine the profile and check it at Monza which is flatter but has significant fine bumps. I go over it further with the Corvette and tweak slightly. Then I start creating different Game Manager profile for different cars and tracks. I lower the % allocation for F1 style cars in Game Manager and tweak the slider profile settings to suit.
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    I’m still a noob on some things too! :think Yea, it’s right there in front of me in the Game Manager. I never looking into it much I guess because, as I mentioned above, I don’t really need to since I use a different method. And I’ve been using simtools for so long now that I forgot all about it since I don’t look at game manager these days unless I need to patch a new game.

    Anyway, that’s good! But being able to drive tune different car/track combos would be a better way imho. I've got a simple DOS program that will do as I stated above and will swap out files and then change them back again and I'll see if I can adapt it so we can use it to swap tuning files too.
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    Anyone knows where is the Tuning Center file located?

    where is this file.png
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    C:\Users\Milton\AppData\Local\SimTools\GameEngine\MaxMinProfiles
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    Thanks, :)
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    Audi R8 Traction loss 30% travel test youtube video:

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    Why are you limiting to 30% and Imo its still too sensitive, SKID PAD SKID PAD SKID PAD....that's all i will say.
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    Milton Well-Known Member Gold Contributor

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    Nick, i just find that 30% is sufficient at lease for me, i can fell when the car is lossing the traction easily, if i apply more i find that to be more like a distraction.
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    I agree with Nick too sensitive and not enough range, the TL motor % should be much higher to give you a much fuller range and smoother. Some of those curves you're getting twitchy TL when you shouldn't at the speed you're doing unless it's wet or oil on the track and you've got superb steering reactions. I reckon with those settings on a skid pad it would be essentially uncontrollable. Just my opinion, if you're happy that's it I guess!!