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Tutorial SPS - Sabertooth Packet Serial PID motor driver sketch w/SoftStart

Discussion in 'SimTools compatible interfaces' started by BlazinH, Nov 10, 2016.

  1. Avenga76

    Avenga76 Well-Known Member

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    Hi @BlazinH Would it be possible to comment that motor3 back in because I want to use a Sabertooth 2x60 and a SyRen 50 to run my 3DOF motion simulator.

    The SyRen 50 looks like it is just a single channel Sabertooth, has all the same DIP switch options. So I was going to use the 2X60 Sabertooth for my seat mover and the SyRen 50 for my traction loss.

    I have ordered the boards and they arrived yesterday.

    Just trying to figure out if I can run all 3 off the one Arduino or if I should use 2 Arduinos so I can design my controller box.
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    This sketch has been optimized for use with two motors only. While a third could be added the motor updates per second would have to be reduced to compensate. Therefore I suggest you use a second arduino.
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    Awesome! Thanks for that.

    I have about 20 Arduinos in stock for my wind simulators so I have plenty.

    [​IMG]

    I will get to designing my controller box now.
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    Hi guys, for a while I'm using SMC3 with sabertooth 2x32, but I do not understand why the engines are not perfectly synchronized, I tried with ibt, and as far as they are "cheap", the engines are perfectly synchronized. Delay the known species in gear changes, or in the box lane with the pit limiter, I feel that the motors do not go together I tried to increase the power a bit of one but it is not the power that does not go, it's a delay Of the signal. What can I control?
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    Hallo,
    I want set serial timeouts 100ms in describe software. It show me "s" and not m/s. I try to set 0,01but it's not accep this value. How can set 100 m/s? writing 100? but this meean 100 s and not 100 m/s.
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    where is the updated sketch ??
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    i incresed the frid to 6 and the motors where smooth and in time.. i found the same tho
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    Hallo.
    When I try to instal SMC3-SPS sketchI receive this error message:
    "the folder not contain a valid library"


    How can I fix?
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    The updated sketch replaced the previous one so its the sketch available in the first post.
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    Use .01

    You likely still need to install the sabertooth arduino library I've posted next to the sketch in the first post.
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    In fact, I had already solved this way, for me it was enough 3 on fpid, thanks for the help;)
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    ok ive sorted my issues guys..
    1st..the arduino port was set to 9600 (i didnt no how to find or change this at first )
    2nd.. i think this was the cause in axis assignments i had
    [A<Axis1a>][B<Axis2a>][C<Axis3a>]

    the 3rd axis was cause the issue it was bleeding a signal over the top of the A and b i removed the c axis and it fixed all my issues ..
    thanks to the following
    yobuddy
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    and thanks to silentchill who was helping me via pm and found the issue with his suggestions...champions
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    Thank you @BlazinH , @RufusDufus and @Pit for this beautiful software solution and for the very clear instructions in the first post. It looks like I came to the party at the right time with my build.
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    Guys - I am switching my sim to sabertooth 2x60 (From MM) and adding 3 - 75ah batteries. (1 for each 2x60) I think I'm clear on mostly everything - except the wiring of the battery. Here is the way I have envisioned.

    AFS.jpg

    I guess my only question is that where the wires meet at the battery post - it is OK for the Pre-Battery and Post-battery wires to be touching? I guess I am not comprehending what prevents the regenerated energy from being absorbed into the power supply if the wires are touching? (bypassing the battery)
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    Great - Just didn't make sense to me. Moving forward.
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    @Avenga76 How did you got to that page? I can only find it if I go from your link, i'm sure there will be more useful resources that they doesn't link in their page.
    Thanks anyway
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    It's linked on their page https://www.dimensionengineering.com/products/sabertooth2x60

    Right down the bottom under "Application Notes" there is the link "Using a SyRen/Sabertooth with an ATX (or similar) DC power supply"

    They have quite a bit of info under the notes and documentation section
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    hello, I would like if you give me help, since I am new to this, I am doing a 2 dof thanks to the tutorial, working with the arduino SMC 0.7 + bridge h l298N + simtools 1.3 since in the first instance could run the engines correctly with SMC3UtilS V0.6, but at the moment of executing the program simtools 1.3 does not take any action in the mode at the time of making AXES TESTING only in the intermittent Arduino RX account which is doing wrong to help. Thank you
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