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PT-Actuators 3DOF system?

Discussion in 'Commercial Simulators and Peripherie' started by LukeBrown, Jul 1, 2019.

  1. Zeroselect

    Zeroselect Member Gold Contributor

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    Watching that video just gave me the biggest :grin thinking how its going to be having a motion rig.
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    Thanos Building the Future one AC Servo at a time... or 6

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    Looking at buying a kit from PT-actuator.com. I am not much of a DIY/Maker type (not enough time in my life).

    Doesn't the PT-Actuator kit already come with the required hardware (aasd-15a)?
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  4. Thanos

    Thanos Building the Future one AC Servo at a time... or 6

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    Sure, look here:
    http://www.pt-actuator.com/proshow.asp?strID=174

    The actuators on PT-ACTUATOR are 150mm stroke (FSX-100 are 100mm stroke).

    It includes servomotors and drives ( AASD-15A) as well my AMC-AASD15A servo controller that makes it compatible with simtools.
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    Sweet!

    You're going to be inundated with question once I get my setup. :grin
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    Thanos Building the Future one AC Servo at a time... or 6

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    You can seek answers or ask questions here:
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    No I am suggesting adding traction loss and perhaps a G-Seat + harness tensioner to the motion rig for a more complete and realistic experience.

    Personally I do consider a traditional 3 actuator design is better, as with 4 sometimes one actuator will not be in contact with the ground, which can't happen with 3.
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  8. djbart82

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    good night Luke
    I am going to mount a system like yours but with the SFX100, can you pass me the configuration file that you have please?
    Thanks greetings
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    good
    this configuration is correct, currently I have the sfx100 with three servos, one front and two rear and this configuration I do not notice it natural
    when accelerating leans forward, when I brake back, it should be the other way around
    another thing that I notice and I don't know where to change in the simtool is the brsquedad when changing gears, I would like it to feel less abrupt
    could you help me please
    thanks
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    In SimTools Axis Assignments the Dir box being checked orange or not determines which way and axis moves, so try reversing how yours are set for surge: https://www.xsimulator.net/community/faq/which-way-to-set-simtool-axis-movements.230/
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  11. Chris0711

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    Hi together,
    I followed the discussion 3 vs 4 actuators in different forums. With the PT actuators, I think we have a strong system . So 2 actuators in the rear, one in front of the pedals should be powerful enough.
    Has some of you testet both types and has good arguments for 4 actuators?

    My plan is, to combine a 3 post platform with a traction loss at front and rear and a seatmover for simulating the G forces.

    Best regards,
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    I would suggest placing TL only on the rear, and the front single actuator would be the rotation point for the TL... better balance while rotating a 3 legged rig.

    Also did you see this promotion on PT-actuator site? If you use iRacing would be great opportunity...
    1-20032611193L18.jpg

    Thanks
    Thanos
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    Wow, thar is really a good offer.

    For the TL System, i have more questions, but I think I find a better thread for this

    Have you tested both systems? 4 legged and 3 legged? I just wonder, if there is any reason for the 4th leg, else the better weight management. I understand the argument of simulating the suspension movement. But simulating a single wheel movement (lika a curb...) would lead to one actuator loosing ground contact? Or am I wrong?

    I just want to make sure to get the best immersion, if it's better to have 4 actuators, I will save money a bit longer ;)

    Thanks,
    Chris
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    Watch Out! is not 150mm or 100mm stroke but only 80mm

    Too bad!
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    Yes, its a special offer for iRacing as it says... and 80mm is still a lot for 3 actuator platform which has more range than a 4 actuator platform... Its a trade-off between stability or range. ;)
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    Hey. It looks like it's been updated, and is now 100mm stroke? @Thanos can you confirm?
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    Hey, I'm not sure myself either. It's from PT-Actuator, maybe you can contact them to ask? Despite PT-Actuator using my AMC controllers, I have little or no say to the actuator hardware they make!

    Thanks
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    @Thanos Does it make a difference to you if we buy your AMC Controller on your Tindie page or from PT-Actuator?
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    No its the same thing. The only difference is that PT-ACTUATOR adds a really cool metal enclosure to it... ;)
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    Hi, buddy, it's so upset to hear about this, what's the motion kit you bring from us ? we checked the sales rocord a moment ago, all orders are been sent within 3-5days, no more delay, no lost parts, no dispute, and, we are really great honor to hear that you are saying quick message response, day , night, it's my working style, definitely, and, we are also provide service in a short time , too. So, what kind of service do you need ? i can't see the service items that you are asking for by here, thanks. Shao.