SimTools v3 Public Beta

Note: My motors are in opposite direction from each other (hence "Dir" swap for sway, heave and surge to get the chair moving the same way)

Added my Interface settings:

Note:

• I'm assuming that SimTools 3 (ST3) is a stable working version, but I'm doubting that as my post was moved here to a "public beta"
  • If I'm new and setting up for the first time is it better for me to be using SimTools 2 (ST2) (long term stable) or ST3 (seems to be in beta)? I.e. can I trust game profiles in ST3 vs ST2?
  • QUESTION: Has anyone else used ST3 and War Thunder Profile successfully (Just to give me confidents that I need to keep working on it)?
• I didn't include capture for Min/Max Tuning, Axis limits, Parking location or Crash detection as they are all default (I haven't explored them yet)
• Additional War Thunder output notes:
  • Pitch doesn't seem to do anything (I tried a large value of 100% to make sure it wasn't moving at all)
  • Roll Rate doesn't seem to do anything
  • Pitch Rate is "janky" I.e. I was getting weird movements so I turned it off.
    • As I think about it though if "Roll" is acting like "Pitch" could the "Pitch Rate" be acting like "Roll" maybe some "wires" are crossed?
• My Output settings are:
• For reference No Limits Game works great and this is the Axis Assignments I have for it:

Additional info (I couldn't edit my post above due to 1 min time limit):

• I am setting up the "Force" 1 at a time so that I don't have interfering input/output.
• I'm changing my "dir" for War Thunder to Axis 2 (to match No Limits) and will post on how it goes.

can really get WT to work a all also man, rig only move when changing vehicles... but not in the game inself...

Ive problem with dirt 2.0 works perfectly on a monitor... no motion at all when in VR

Why do you need a monitor if you are in VR? I guess if it is for other people to watch wouldn't it be a VR setting like in Steam VR you have the "Display VR View" as an option in the main settings. Then others can "see" what you are seeing.

I mean dirt 2.0 works with motion when played on monitor, when game is in VR ive no telemetry in SMT3 and no motion...
Windows MRP always run game on a monitor regardless...

Please note Re: War Thunder Plugin for ST3 (SimTools 3) I think there is something wrong with the plugin or the game output as I got the IL2S (IL 2 Sturmovik) working with the following settings.


For the War Thunder Plugin I got "Pitch" working by assigning either "surge" or "Roll" and fiddling with the dir. But it is not intuitive I.e. "Roll" force is giving "Pitch" like responses. I can't get any of the forces to simulate "Roll" so not sure what else I could add (except I'm sure it isn't the rig as IL2 and NoLimits2 were both configured without much issue).

Re: War Thunder on ST3 I was reading through the forum on War Thunder Plugin for ST2 and it mentioned http://127.0.0.1:8111/ is sending the data it needs. Is this also required on the ST3 plugin?

I will try tomorrow and update results.

My system is large with three actuators and a fourth for rotation. It's similar to a hexapod but it only has three actuators at 90 degree instead of six.

Do I understand that I use the the Generic 3D Rotating plugin as a base? If so how do I change how many motors it has? Otherwise it's trying to use more than I have.

Hi I did actually played both before installing it versions but will do reinstall plugin and go just VR , thanks for a suggestion

Thank you for the input:

• I will remove speed (I had mistaken it for additional "surge" like force), thank you for the information.
• Note: I have been setting up the system one axis at a time but didn't have the understanding about what each force should be doing so still learning
• I am learning more about the forces so I agree the settings are incorrect but pitch and roll do work.
• Roll is the same direction because my motors are mounted opposite of each other so for pitch I have to switch one of them around.
  • QUESTION: For Sway I'm trying to understand if it acts like roll or the g-force that a turn would make. e.g. If I'm (in a plane) and roll "right" should the sway be "right" also or should it be opposite (to the left)?
• I'm not sure how to emulate "Heave" on a 2 DOF as only the "front" (front mounted motors) is moving.
  • QUESTION: Is "Surge" (on a 2DOF) the "opposite of Heave"? or has nothing to do with it really because it is a "up/down" motion.
• My understanding so far (please reply if it is correct):
  • Roll - The plane rolling on the "x" (nose to tail) axis.
  • Pitch - The plane "climbing" or "diving" on the "y" axis (left to right)
  • Yaw - The planes movement on the "z" axis(caused by the rudder). (my 2DOF dosen't currently have this though I am hopping to add it in the future with "traction loss" (which isn't truly Yaw but easier to implement))
  • ?Sway? - The G-Force (left and right on "y" axis) felt when rolling and or turning?
  • Heave - The G-Force up and down motion on the "z" axis (Seems hard to emulate on a 2 or 3 DOF system)
  • Surge - The G-Force felt (on y axis) when taking off or breaking. Pitch back when taking off and pitch forward when breaking on landing

worked 100% thanks again

Thanks, I set up Sway opposite of Roll and it is working great. The diagram helps a lot TY.

This diagram is very helpful, thank you.

It seems to me that I don't need sway at all in my rig, it doesn't move on that axis.

I'm getting the hang of simtools but I think, in the good faith attempt at feed back, that it's a little steep on the learning curve.

Should there not be profiles for the different types of setups that you could then tweak?