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Showroom 2dof foot mount sim powered by 12v Electric Jacks

Discussion in 'DIY Motion Simulator Projects' started by mariano68, Nov 1, 2015.

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  1. mariano68

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    It is great to see that I made at least a little contribution to the forum :)
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    mariano68, Nov 26, 2015
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    thats not the only place the contribution was made to.....
    bsft, Nov 26, 2015
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    That's great then!
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    I will be adding heave to my sim soon, mechanical part is almost resolved, just a question about potentiometer setting. I use SCM3 wich as a default, centers the motors at the start, this is no problem for 2dof, but for the heave movement I will use a spring that it will be getting its center position once I get on the sim, so the only way that the motors won't struggle against the spring, is to power on the heave motor once I get on the sim, but also if the sim is used by another person (different weight) the heave motor will be trying to center the sim all the time. Any advice?
    mariano68, Jan 9, 2016
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    How have you implemented heave, do you have some pictures or better yet a video?

    I am just in the process of swapping mine over to a 50:1 gearbox for heave, as it can't be back driven.
    noorbeast, Jan 10, 2016
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    Not done yet, but the idea is to do a center spring with a guide, and one or two motors with levers, something like this but with two motors:

    mariano68, Jan 10, 2016
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    More like this, but using a lever system like the other video
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    When I get the new lever made up and change the gearbox on mine from the 25:1 to the new 50:1 then I will be able to let you know how it compares with a gearbox that can't be back driven.

    On mine the 25:1 could not hold the sim when nobody was on it because of the heave assist spring. Also it was fine for racing but the motor got noticeably warmer when I started to mess with flight sims, particularly long climb outs constantly putting sustained load on the heave motor.
    noorbeast, Jan 10, 2016
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    Thanks for your reply.
    I will (I hope) going to Brazil on vacations in 15 days, once I get back I will start working on the heave mech.
    mariano68, Jan 10, 2016
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    Thanks Mariano68,
    Jack motors look excellent idea for upgrading my wiper motors 2DOF.

    I haven't tried, but could you not use an electric car jack under / welded to the UV joint and use it to give you heave ?
    It lifts cars so strong and stable. So is it too slow ?
    If so, could change gearing ?
    Kass55, Jan 23, 2016
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    Thanks!
    It is too slow, but if it lifts 2000kg with the current gearing, it could be able to do the work with a 1/4 of the reduction (500kg is more than enough).
    If you have access to gearing stuff could be nice to try!
    My current idea to use it for heave is keep the gearing and add a lever.
    9.jpg
    mariano68, Jan 23, 2016
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    I am very pleased with the 50:1. As it can't be back driven it has no problems holding the sim when unloaded against the heave spring. Speed wise performance is still good

    The only down side is that the 50:1 comes with a large 8mm bolt hole through the otherwise solid shaft, which I was a bit concerned weakens the shaft. I had a local machine shop turn up a very thick walled interference fit lever tube for me so the shaft is supported as much as possible.
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    noorbeast, Jan 23, 2016
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    Good idea @noorbeast
    The Jacks motor can't hold if not powered, but it is not much of a problem.
    mariano68, Jan 23, 2016
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    I would have never have thought of this so cheers for the idea! I did a quick test and it really does not take that much to lift my 140+kg (me included) Simlab P1X rig from the back using levers. I happen to have 2 wiper motors lying around and some heavy duty springs that will work wonders. It does move a little back and forth though so that needs to be addressed but my rig is already on wheels so its not a big issue for now
    Trigen, May 6, 2020
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