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3 DOF planing with DC 12 or 24 V gearmotors

Discussion in 'DIY Motion Simulator Building Q&A / FAQ' started by higgy, Jan 9, 2017.

  1. higgy

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    So you think 60 rpm is better ?
    ok, will ask for it, the China- men i write is ( i think) only a seller, no technic firm ...
    he wites the engine can 130 kg ... ( but what is this .. 130 kg ..with 5 cm arm, or 10 or 20 cm ? :) ?
    I think this not really helps me.
    But i ask before i buy it ...and write it here.
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    Price for gear motor is USD280/set
    price for freight of three sets around 60kgs is USD430 by TNT

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    They write 50-60 nm ...is this ok ?
    How do you calulate this thing ...50 nm ..are 5 kg on a 1 m ? arm / lever ? ?
    Sorry, i am just a beginner in this...can someone tells me this " 50 NM "
    Can i calulate what this engine can power up (kg) on a arm with 10 cm lenght ?
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    sorry, my english and math is not good enough for this ....
    when they tell me the gaermotor has 50 nm ...i think ist not enough Information, is this right ?
    because where can i measure These 50 nm, on an arm in 10 cm, or 50 cm, or 100 cm lenght arm.
    This was my question, so how can i see a differnce when one seller told me this engine has 50 nm, the other one tells me it has 40 nm ?
    ist not same ground ? sorry ...my english is not really the best, i hope you understand my question :)
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    What would be helpful if you can ask for and post links to product pages where full specifications are listed, that way members could advise.

    If you have a product number you may be able to search for that to find the full specifications.
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    I found a simple Homepage calculator :
    http://www.wolfgang-frank.eu/drehmoment.php
    it Looks good, so he tells me, with 50 NM for the Motor, i can lift 50 kg on a arm with 100 mm ( 10 cm )
    That Looks good. ?! is this right ?!
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    So it Looks very simple ...800 Watt DC gearmotor , with 3000 rpm and a ratio 1:60 is really powerful :)
    He tells me 150 NM ! ! But the Hongkong man tells me "only" 100 NM

    So 150 kg each motor, for 10 cm radius ( = 200mm way ) 450 max load platform .... so when i use it with only 200 kg should be ok in every action on a safe way ?!
    I can help them also with a little springs-things ?

    better less weight (help with spring(s) ) for every thing, Ampere, for motor, for speed, for electronics ...right ?

    And worth thing, when i spend much money, and I want/need more kg power up ... I make 8 cm arm ... or 7 ....
    ( worth theory, before i do everything to garbage :) )

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    So I buy it now ....shipping is not really cheap ...but it is like it is ...

    130ZYTRV063 1:60 24V 800W 50rpm $280.00 3 $840.00

    TNT freight cost for 60kgs $430.00 1 $430.00

    Summe $ 1.270,00 USD

    Hope it will send immdiately :) :)
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    I use ac motor220v , 0,55kw.gearbox 168Nm 7.5cm radiu .Maximum Weight 200kg ,
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    So, my schooltime is long time ago ...:) but when i calculate the strength of the electric current ...
    I = P / U
    With my motors should be 800 Watt / 24 Volt = 33 Ampere ..for one motor ... right ?
    So the sabertooth version with 60 Amperes should not be overloadet, right ?
    So i need 2 sabertooth ...for 3 motors ...

    Can anyone with experience confirm this ? ?
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    ? Nobody an idea ..
    ok another question, I have 0 experience with the arduino , is it possible to work with it without programming knowings ?

    Or do i Need such an Arduino, or is this only an Option and another "Thing" or another "kit" is easyier ?
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    The 'dislike' is very rude :(. @higgy , Everyone can tell by your questions that you have not read the FAQ. The vast majority of members are not getting paid to answer your questions, and it gets old very fast if your answering the same ones each day. Read the FAQ and if your have any questions after that then I'm sure the members will be happy to help you if they can.
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    Hello Mr. higgy,
    it would help all members here if you will be so kind reading the FAQ's and other builders threats first. Many members here had done this for weeks, months or even years before building their own sim. It's a mistake to believe one could build a diy-sim "on the fly". Like saying: " I've got vacation for a week, let's build a sim."


    German "translation" : :grin

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    But you really dont think that i dont read it ? otherwise i wouldn ask this questions
    ( I manage since nearly 20 years 2 other communities with more than 70.000 users,
    so believe me , i knwo something of FAQ and communities / foren, and i wouldnt ask this here, when i can read the answers in a FAQ.

    When i had more time for free , believe me it was already ready here.
    But between reading for this...and bulding my sim, and my work i had to
    build and fly trikes and planes.

    I build in 1999 my own cockpits ( without moving ) but with pedals and VR ..so my experience is not to bad, but the contolling and software for this is new for me, so you can help me, or not, but dont send me " rtfm" thats not helpful.
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    Ok, if i have the choice :think .......... then not. :)
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    I think here are another people who will help .... no problem.