1. Do not share user accounts! Any account that is shared by another person will be blocked and closed. This means: we will close not only the account that is shared, but also the main account of the user who uses another person's account. We have the ability to detect account sharing, so please do not try to cheat the system. This action will take place on 04/18/2023. Read all forum rules.
    Dismiss Notice
  2. For downloading SimTools plugins you need a Download Package. Get it with virtual coins that you receive for forum activity or Buy Download Package - We have a zero Spam tolerance so read our forum rules first.

    Buy Now a Download Plan!
  3. Do not try to cheat our system and do not post an unnecessary amount of useless posts only to earn credits here. We have a zero spam tolerance policy and this will cause a ban of your user account. Otherwise we wish you a pleasant stay here! Read the forum rules
  4. We have a few rules which you need to read and accept before posting anything here! Following these rules will keep the forum clean and your stay pleasant. Do not follow these rules can lead to permanent exclusion from this website: Read the forum rules.
    Are you a company? Read our company rules
Shared accounts will be removed Plugin Downloads Zero spam policy Forum Rules

Showroom 3070W 6DOF Seat Mover (WIP Surge_Sway table)

Discussion in 'DIY Motion Simulator Projects' started by Pit, Mar 5, 2014.

Page 28 of 29
  1. Pit

    Pit - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Gold Contributor

    Joined:
    Oct 2, 2013
    Messages:
    3,012
    Location:
    Switzerland
    Balance:
    30,451Coins
    Ratings:
    +3,091 / 31 / -0
    My Motion Simulator:
    DC motor, Arduino, 6DOF
    As promised some photos... The 3D environment of the game is mixing with the nets.
    IMG_20170105_192401.jpg IMG_20170105_192235.jpg IMG_20170105_192119.jpg IMG_20170105_192241.jpg
    • Like Like x 5
    • Creative Creative x 2
    Pit, Jan 5, 2017
    #541
  2. Blame73

    Blame73 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 6, 2014
    Messages:
    1,213
    Location:
    Italy
    Balance:
    8,283Coins
    Ratings:
    +1,120 / 2 / -0
    My Motion Simulator:
    2DOF, DC motor, Arduino, Motion platform
    Nice! And now...


    VIDEO!! :popcorn
    • Agree Agree x 3
    Blame73, Jan 5, 2017
    #542
  3. Nick Moxley

    Nick Moxley Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 13, 2013
    Messages:
    2,779
    Occupation:
    Owner/Operator- Moxleys Rantals
    Location:
    Winnipeg Manitoba Canada
    Balance:
    17,055Coins
    Ratings:
    +2,505 / 30 / -2
    My Motion Simulator:
    2DOF, 3DOF, DC motor, JRK
    I think you forgot to click "Race" and show a cockpit view. :grin:p
    • Agree Agree x 1
    Nick Moxley, Jan 5, 2017
    #543
  4. Pit

    Pit - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Gold Contributor

    Joined:
    Oct 2, 2013
    Messages:
    3,012
    Location:
    Switzerland
    Balance:
    30,451Coins
    Ratings:
    +3,091 / 31 / -0
    My Motion Simulator:
    DC motor, Arduino, 6DOF
    lol
    Pit, Jan 5, 2017
    #544
  5. Pit

    Pit - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Gold Contributor

    Joined:
    Oct 2, 2013
    Messages:
    3,012
    Location:
    Switzerland
    Balance:
    30,451Coins
    Ratings:
    +3,091 / 31 / -0
    My Motion Simulator:
    DC motor, Arduino, 6DOF
    now with in game view. The contrast of the screen is darker in real as seen on the taken photos
    IMG_20170105_215416.jpg IMG_20170105_215551.jpg IMG_20170105_215559.jpg
    • Like Like x 6
    Pit, Jan 5, 2017
    #545
  6. speedy

    speedy Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 1, 2012
    Messages:
    1,193
    Location:
    Alexandria , Egypt
    Balance:
    7,933Coins
    Ratings:
    +1,287 / 10 / -0
    My Motion Simulator:
    3DOF, AC motor, Arduino, Motion platform
    Oh yeh :) ... the amazing heave effect is making all the joy ... all those pumps in the head camera made me really in the mode ...
    Awesome is just not enough :thumbs ...
    • Like Like x 1
    • Agree Agree x 1
    speedy, Jan 7, 2017
    #546
  7. Pit

    Pit - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Gold Contributor

    Joined:
    Oct 2, 2013
    Messages:
    3,012
    Location:
    Switzerland
    Balance:
    30,451Coins
    Ratings:
    +3,091 / 31 / -0
    My Motion Simulator:
    DC motor, Arduino, 6DOF
    Hi everyone

    I was long time off (so many good and bad things happened, at least my simulator was collecting dust only), now back for a huge update on my rig, all modifications will be done in two steps. First step so far (particularly done or working in progress):

    All the gear racks will be replaced with SFU1605 ballscrews due the slack of the gears of the gear motors. The PC will be mounted on the rig itself to avoid the insane spaghetti syndrome. I modified the 3DOF under the seat, just experimenting with a complete new motion design (still using winches and a motorcycle scissor jack). I will replace the Arduinos of the Sabertooths with Thanos' AMC1280USB. Both mushroom kill switch buttons are now placed together (wheel and motors). The wheel stand was better stabilized. The headliner was completely new made (now with felt instead of plastic). The yaw axis (breaking out) will also modified with a ballscrew system. While I used two gear racks for each layer, now I have only one ballsrew but powered by two motors in tandem. The angle of the side screens was dramatically increased (now ~85 °) due to two reasons: first I get more space in my room, second using 3DVISION the side screens are in a perfect angle of viewing, never thought it will work (but it works).

    If time permits I will replace the both winches under the seat also using the motorcycle scissor jack as the second step. (still noise noise noise.......).
    IMG_20180916_162137.jpg IMG_20180916_164030.jpg IMG_20180916_164046.jpg IMG_20180916_164107.jpg IMG_20180916_164117.jpg IMG_20180916_164139.jpg IMG_20180916_164202.jpg RM1605-ballscrew-BK-BF12.jpg_640x640.jpg
    • Like Like x 4
    Last edited: Sep 16, 2018
    Pit, Sep 16, 2018
    #547
  8. BlazinH

    BlazinH Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 19, 2013
    Messages:
    2,145
    Location:
    Oklahoma City, USA
    Balance:
    16,621Coins
    Ratings:
    +1,835 / 32 / -1
    It's nice to see you back and active on the forum again. I hope your updates work as planned. :cheers
    • Agree Agree x 2
    • Friendly Friendly x 1
    BlazinH, Sep 16, 2018
    #548
  9. Pit

    Pit - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Gold Contributor

    Joined:
    Oct 2, 2013
    Messages:
    3,012
    Location:
    Switzerland
    Balance:
    30,451Coins
    Ratings:
    +3,091 / 31 / -0
    My Motion Simulator:
    DC motor, Arduino, 6DOF
    Small update, a real foot mat like in a real car (comfort lol)
    IMG_20180917_174323.jpg
    Two cover panels under the seat.
    IMG_20180917_174258.jpg IMG_20180917_174431.jpg
    • Like Like x 1
    Pit, Sep 17, 2018
    #549
  10. Pit

    Pit - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Gold Contributor

    Joined:
    Oct 2, 2013
    Messages:
    3,012
    Location:
    Switzerland
    Balance:
    30,451Coins
    Ratings:
    +3,091 / 31 / -0
    My Motion Simulator:
    DC motor, Arduino, 6DOF
    Thank you for the cordial welcome. Really I missed the xsimulator community a lot :cheers
    • Like Like x 2
    • Friendly Friendly x 1
    Pit, Sep 17, 2018
    #550
  11. Pit

    Pit - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Gold Contributor

    Joined:
    Oct 2, 2013
    Messages:
    3,012
    Location:
    Switzerland
    Balance:
    30,451Coins
    Ratings:
    +3,091 / 31 / -0
    My Motion Simulator:
    DC motor, Arduino, 6DOF
    Update Traction Loss:

    Before:
    YDXJ3213.jpg
    Now:
    IMG_20180928_213254.jpg
    IMG_20180928_213249.jpg
    IMG_20180928_213244.jpg

    BTW absolutely no slack - nothing! Extremely stable...
    • Like Like x 7
    • Creative Creative x 2
    Last edited: Sep 28, 2018
    Pit, Sep 28, 2018
    #551
  12. BlazinH

    BlazinH Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 19, 2013
    Messages:
    2,145
    Location:
    Oklahoma City, USA
    Balance:
    16,621Coins
    Ratings:
    +1,835 / 32 / -1
    Creative use of the encoder or brake shaft of the worm gear motor. Or a least that's what it looks like. Appears youre still using to gear output for the pot too so you don't need a multi-turn pot or gearing or belts.
    • Like Like x 1
    • Agree Agree x 1
    Last edited: Sep 29, 2018
    BlazinH, Sep 29, 2018
    #552
  13. Pit

    Pit - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Gold Contributor

    Joined:
    Oct 2, 2013
    Messages:
    3,012
    Location:
    Switzerland
    Balance:
    30,451Coins
    Ratings:
    +3,091 / 31 / -0
    My Motion Simulator:
    DC motor, Arduino, 6DOF
    Sure, the worm gear is perfect regarding the gear ratio, which allows me to use a standard one turn poti. Fortunately a few years ago I bought high-end industry worm gear motors, versatile and strong (24V).
    If someone is wondering why I did not use linear rails (or guides) - I ordered two for the surge and sway layers to stabilize the ballscrews but not for traction loss. As long there are not much lateral forces my simple design should do the job as well. If all is going well I will upload a video today, before that I have to rewire a lot...
    • Like Like x 1
    Last edited: Sep 29, 2018
    Pit, Sep 29, 2018
    #553
  14. Pit

    Pit - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Gold Contributor

    Joined:
    Oct 2, 2013
    Messages:
    3,012
    Location:
    Switzerland
    Balance:
    30,451Coins
    Ratings:
    +3,091 / 31 / -0
    My Motion Simulator:
    DC motor, Arduino, 6DOF
    Not yet ready, just for testing purposes. If it works as might be expected it will be painted, properly wired, cutting the screws etc. For me this is a completely new step of simbuilding, back in the days I gradually mounted any parts on the rig and if something was broken or had to be replaced I had to disassemble a lot of parts again. Now the "powertrain" is one big thing which can be removed in a few seconds. BTW all wooden parts will be painted at least.
    IMG_20180930_173116.jpg

    As you can see I use a worm gear form a very small motor. This worm gear (25:1) uses the full range of my 10 turn potis.

    IMG_20180930_173049.jpg

    EDIT: the fixing bolts /screws are not final.
    • Like Like x 1
    Pit, Sep 30, 2018
    #554
  15. Nick Moxley

    Nick Moxley Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 13, 2013
    Messages:
    2,779
    Occupation:
    Owner/Operator- Moxleys Rantals
    Location:
    Winnipeg Manitoba Canada
    Balance:
    17,055Coins
    Ratings:
    +2,505 / 30 / -2
    My Motion Simulator:
    2DOF, 3DOF, DC motor, JRK
    two motor's....shaft to shaft....im confused...lol :confused:o_O
    • Funny Funny x 1
    Nick Moxley, Sep 30, 2018
    #555
  16. Pit

    Pit - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Gold Contributor

    Joined:
    Oct 2, 2013
    Messages:
    3,012
    Location:
    Switzerland
    Balance:
    30,451Coins
    Ratings:
    +3,091 / 31 / -0
    My Motion Simulator:
    DC motor, Arduino, 6DOF
    The surge power train is ready to install - it looks simple but it was a hell of adjusting...also very heavy but pretty stable as well.

    IMG_20181005_150403.jpg IMG_20181005_150355.jpg
    • Like Like x 1
    • Winner Winner x 1
    Pit, Oct 5, 2018
    #556
  17. Pit

    Pit - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Gold Contributor

    Joined:
    Oct 2, 2013
    Messages:
    3,012
    Location:
    Switzerland
    Balance:
    30,451Coins
    Ratings:
    +3,091 / 31 / -0
    My Motion Simulator:
    DC motor, Arduino, 6DOF
    Update: testing TL and Surge Table (TL is still only on 12V, no need for higher speed), also testing surge taken in the first video. The speed could be set way faster (PWMMax is 150 only), but then the noise will be INCREDIBLE...also no need for higher speed since I do not want to hit the wall in front lol.

    Traction Loss:
    • Like Like x 4
    Pit, Oct 17, 2018
    #557
  18. brubbs

    brubbs New Member

    Joined:
    Jan 1, 2019
    Messages:
    3
    Balance:
    138Coins
    Ratings:
    +1 / 0 / -0
    My Motion Simulator:
    3DOF
    just finalize my 3dof today , i discover your 6dof , my eyes are bleeding !! very good job !! i love it
    • Like Like x 1
    brubbs, Jan 21, 2019
    #558
  19. joe extraknow

    joe extraknow Member Gold Contributor

    Joined:
    Jan 4, 2017
    Messages:
    111
    Location:
    United States
    Balance:
    1,550Coins
    Ratings:
    +40 / 2 / -0
    My Motion Simulator:
    3DOF
    @Pit
    Here is product I saw posted on race dept.


    If I give it more room say over 15 ft back and forth, and move much faster (higher acceleration), per your experience would it be better? And how to setup the washout filter on this type of long surge?
    Last edited: Feb 16, 2019
    joe extraknow, Feb 16, 2019
    #559
  20. Pit

    Pit - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Gold Contributor

    Joined:
    Oct 2, 2013
    Messages:
    3,012
    Location:
    Switzerland
    Balance:
    30,451Coins
    Ratings:
    +3,091 / 31 / -0
    My Motion Simulator:
    DC motor, Arduino, 6DOF
    You are going to build a simulator or you bought the commercial one shown in the video?
    Pit, Feb 16, 2019
    #560
Page 28 of 29