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aarondc's nDOF rig

Discussion in 'DIY Motion Simulator Projects' started by aarondc, Jun 13, 2013.

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    Where did you get the PN18 pipe? My thoughts were to build a rig, then when I make it mobile, stick the PVC rig on a wooden platform of some sort.
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    Oh wait - so that 50mm pipe with 60mm diameter sounds ok then? Look friggin beefy in the shop. I didn't buy any of that to make the rig yet. I bought 15mm stuff to muck around with coz it's so friggin cheap. :D Once I have a good handle on how it works and what I can do with it, I will design a rig based on simul8rs and then look at getting the PVC to build it up.
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    Yes you could sit the whole top frame on a big sheet of ply I suppose, that would sturdy it up.
    PN18 Pipe, I bought from a wholesaler as plumbing supplies were 3-4 times the price.
    http://www.totaleden.com.au/ there sales office is in Melbourne and I picked up from a local warehouse near to me.
    Pn18 pipe 5.2mm wall
    PN12 pipe 2.6mm wall ( thanks for the info Rob)
    ANd it was lighter than the steel frame I originally had on it. Pic attached

    Thicker the better.
    Yes its beefy for sure, but thats because its PVC and not steel.
    Did you figure out what sort of sim?
    2 DOF with pivot?
    3 DOF ?
    2.5 DOF (2 dof with drift)?

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    (The PVC connectors I bought are PN18, I just noticed.)

    No, no decision as yet. This project is one of 10 ideas I have had since I started doing Arduino development a couple of months ago.

    First up is a small robot so I can learn all about PWM, PID, power supplies, motor drivers, etc, etc. While I am doing that, I can play around with PVC because the PVC rig can be used regardless of which DOF system I decide on. That's the theory at least.

    As I prefer flight to driving, I am leaning towards 3DOF (heave, pitch, roll), but that's a very naive view based on what I would like to do, as opposed to understanding the motor systems available, how to implement them for the DOF I want, and other pertinent details.

    Someone posted a 3DOF with a shock absorber underneath that looked pretty handy. The rods connected to the platform were crazy long though. Why are they so long? A few people suggested shortening them and I could not agree more heheh.

    As I do not weld, I am pondering how to connect rods to motors and what not. Lots of variables to account for here.
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    The link is for Aldoz 3DOF, and he uses boat winch motors and JRKS. I posted it for you.
    The spring was a curly one from what I understand, as it was calculated to specifics.
    Probably why its so tall
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    Yeah he burnt the jrks out too, didn't he? not something I am keen on doing...
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    I liked the design - it had good range of movement, but the pivot via the shock means you can kind of cheat on motor power requirements.
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    Read the whole thread, he burnt out the first set from a bad setup, not JRKS fault.
    I have blown 5 in my time from owner operator stupidity.
    I sent you a PM by the way.
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    Thats the idea
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    Oh nod - user error for sure.
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    1d-o1t error
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    PEBKAC - problem exists between keyboard and chip :D
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    I don't have a gaming machine, so I started looking into those today. I have an iMac for photo editing and my now work laptop was bought for portable video editing.

    A gaming machine would be good for separating personal BS from work BS too. But I digress...

    The real reason I wanted to post today was this: ultra short throw projectors. Down to around 20cm for an 80cm wide image now, according to some review I read on the Ricoh ust projector.
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    I'm wondering if a properly designed front end could allow you to harbour a projector under the steering wheel and still get the FOV projection happening.
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    Look for a quad core CPU, at least 4 gig ram, fat graphics card, BIG psu.
    go to a local PC shop and get one made up.
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    yes
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    A short throw lens maybe or software to help. Rear projection on a dome has been done here before to a good effect, lol , sorry off topic.
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    Just curious where you get those ball socket (??) rods that attach to the motors, etc, for platform movement?

    I don't really even know what they are called...
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