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AMC1280USB Motion Simulator Controller

Discussion in 'SimTools compatible interfaces' started by Thanos, Jul 6, 2017.

  1. hexpod

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    Apparently, in the FW3,5 Thanos has implemented some poka-yoke preventing the user to choose incompatible settings.

    I have the same behavior like you are showing in your vid, and it works.
  2. Gabor Pittner

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    I did it. All plugin added with simtools plugin updater. With firmware v3.5 still does not work.
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    With firmware 2.4 LCD shows "-Motors Online- Rreceiving data.." when simtools or BFF is connected and it works. On the 3.5 firmware LCD does not show that.
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    Can you move your motors with AMC buttons?
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    Of course everything works with 3.5 too.
    Now I tried to change Serial ID format from "motion data only" to "ser feedback off" and worked well too on 2.4, so I dont know what is wrong with 3.5. :(
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    1.)
    In the "Interface Type", select temporary another one.
    2.)
    When "Remove Saved Settings?" dialog shows, press yes.
    3.)
    Re-select heXpod, set 1ms delay and hit save.
    4.)
    Go to "Output Testing" hit the green button and select "(a) Axis Output"

    If the heXpod interface is properly installed the SimTools and heXpod sliders should be linked.
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    It works correctly, but AMC1280USB board does not do anything :(
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    Looks good than.

    To establish the communication between heXpod and the AMC I advise to activate your heXpod copy.
    Contact me on my e-mail.

    Thanks.
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    I want to activate soon but still I don't know witch one of my PC or laptop I will install it. Computer ID is needed. Im thinking about to make a 2 computers setup.
    However I sent you an email about 4 hours ago to your google mail account ;)
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    Since you want to split simtools between two computers, (I don't know why) it only make sense to run heXpod on the game engine (workhorse) pc.
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    Im just thinking about that, but not decided. Perhaps its easier to configure motion software separately with game running... but I dont know.
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    Unless somebody brings a proof that splitting SimTools between two computers gives a substantial performance boost, I would advise to put everything on one single high-end machine.

    I understand the argument to tune on the fly the "Tuning Center" values, but it can also be done from a single PC setup using alt/tab key or just by putting the game in the windowed mode while fine tweaking you settings.

    I've experienced that heXpod kinematic calculations behaves better on a high-end machine and the amount of resources taken for this task is not so big to justify a separate computer. Another parameter which you could consider is the network latency resulting from a dual comp setup. Although I didn't tested it I can imagine that it could add an unwanted delay to the whole motion system.

    Personally I didn't experience any issues running everything on my 4 years old Win8.1, i7-4790k/1080Ti setup. Nowadays, if you're a rich man, you could consider a i9-9900k/2080Ti if the FPS rate is crucial for you.

    If for some reason, while gaming, you will want a direct access to your SimTools settings, you could attach a cheep additional screen to your MB or main GPU.
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    Thank you for your advice, no way its clear now :)
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    I just activated hexpod and everythings work. AMC works well too on firmware 3.5. Thank you very mutch!
    I dont know what wrong when simtools and AMC connected directly, but using with hexpod is a better way to configure my platform perfectly I think. Im appretiated. :)
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    This is my proof , with all 4 SimTools apps running when in game and in full blow it can take more than 20% of the CPU which can affect gaming especially with VR CPU usage can hit 100% easily, I have now got a laptop running all the SimTools apps everything runs much better in high end games. I'm on a 6700k OC'd to 4.5ghz

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    Thank you for your feedback!

    hex.JPG

    When I lounch the game engine and the heXpod driver (fully loaded), I see about 7 percent processor increase.
    For me, as I said, it doesint justify a second PC.

    Best
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    Yeah with Game Dash and Game vibe it soon shoots up, I wouldn't get a 2nd PC especially but if you have a old laptop lying around it can be put to good use :)
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    Thank you, but its too late for me because I activated hexpod on my game PC :) For me every percent is needed to play smooth DCS with in VR setup in high resolution. 10 percent is a huge. (I7 8700k @5GHz, 1080ti.) About in a month I will get a pimax 5k+ HMD so I will need more CPU usage.
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    Hi Guys , well I took the plunge and Tried AMC128USB upgrade firmware 3.5 to run with My BFF / Barebones AMC128USB / Sabertooth 2x60 test Actuator setup ...Grrrrr Grrrr the system was fine with V2.4 7b and thought id try Hexpod option .....Anyways firmware updated as per Instructions OK Parameters Checked OK .. Start Calibration .............Bang actuator shot straight past limit switch ( Inertia) and Proceed to hit Luckliy my Cushioned damper added as a just in case to my test Actuator ) WTF ....

    after several attempts at trying to find out what went wrong Sabertooth OK ( Phew) Encoder2Pos interface Ok ( Phew 2) AMC128USb Analog out 9 Buggered ) (oh Crap ) Grrrrr

    Tried Reload Firmware V2.4 7b ( Updated successfully ) but now confirms I cant get correct AMC 12Bit Analog Output range even when testing with Manual Multi turn 10K Pot ..

    Range seems to go from 0 to <2.5V as opposed to 0 -5V ( Grrrrrr) hence the Actuator Runaway issue..

    Have to Ask @Seatime as I seem to recall you cam across this as well in an earlier post , did you find a fix ? for this scenario..

    Mix n Matched a few of my Encoder2Pos interfaces and sabertooths and all work as they should . so I did the Built in Analog Sweep test in the AMC interface and could see the full 0-5V range ????? but somehow in normal mode the signal is not getting to the AMC analog OUT....

    While im off work I thought I'd get the sim back up and running ..but Losing time again because of this Hicup ..

    Any help or pointing me to the correct post would be appreciated guys
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    You should maybe give a try with FW3.5 and 8bit speed signal output instead of 12bit.

    I was told that the issue could come from the use of 10bit analog sensors with 12bit PWM (analog) and there is scaling and PID calculations go beyond the WORD size variables and clip...
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