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  1. noorbeast

    noorbeast VR Tassie Devil Staff Member Moderator Race Director

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  2. Justinski

    Justinski Enjoy the haircut you have chosen!

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    Thanks for the heads up @noorbeast

    We are embarking on a major sim project which we currently have set up in my large workshop in Perth WA.

    Our current goal is to have a system which is able to dynamically track a specified target position on two axes, smoothly and with as little latency as possible - mimicking the movements of a vehicle simulation in real time.

    We currently have a system which utilizes two DORNA servo drives, connected to an iMC3042E ethernet motion card (in communication with a Windows PC).

    At the moment we've been communicating using the provided IMCnet libraries in a custom C# application, which is used to convert the sourced angles into target parametric positional values which are then sent to each axis.So far we've tried using the tracking parameter (mcstrack) to regularly update the target position (mcstgpos), with mixed results.

    In testing this method, the movement from the motor seemed to be uneven and jerky, as well as significantly delayed.

    Next, we were planning on modifying the target velocity (using mcstgvel) as required whenever the source angle changes.

    Although this solution will result in a smoother movement, it does introduce issues with maintaining accuracy. Before exploring this option, we wondered what you recommend as a possible solution for this application.

    Basically, do you have advice on what is the best way to send a continuous stream of positional updates to the motors with as little lag as possible?
  3. SeatTime

    SeatTime Well-Known Member

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    Hi, @Justinski , from your questions I'm guessing that your team may be lacking in mechatronic knowledge. What you are finding challenging to do, is common knowledge for the building of any motion simulator. Recommend you employ a suitably trained/experience person to fill this void.
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  4. hideki

    hideki Active Member

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    Hello everyone. I am not new but never posted anything. I bought a Simxperience kit long ago, then moved to Lince software and now I want to try simmtools, specially for the arcade games such as Flat Out and the like...
    This is a great community and I am still learning how everything works.
    See you around.
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  5. noorbeast

    noorbeast VR Tassie Devil Staff Member Moderator Race Director

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  6. hideki

    hideki Active Member

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    Many thanks noorbeast I think I already read most of them Anyway I will read them all again to get all the information needed.
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  7. frsim09

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    Bonjour à tous, content d'entrer dans ce forum, que je lis avec attention depuis de nombreux mois.

    Je m'appelle Eric, j'habite tout en bas de la France.
    Passioné d'hélicoptères réels, Radio Commandés et par la simulation aérienne "Flight Simulator", mais aussi amateur de DIRT rally.
    J'envisage de monter un Simulateur 3DOF Vertical, puisque sous FSX je ne pilote que des hélicoptères.
    Pour l'instant, j'en suis juste à tester Simtools avec une Arduino Uno R3 qui pilote une petite plateforme miniature avec 3 servos, depuis Live For Speed !.... bon,... on va dire que ça bouge, c'est un début!
    J'ai hâte de pouvoir tester avec d'autres plugins et de pouvoir passer à la réalisation du simulateur.
    A bientôt


    Hello everyone, happy to enter into this forum, I read carefully for a long time.

    My name is Eric, I live at the bottom of France.
    Passionate real helicopters, Radio Controlled, Air simulation and "Flight Simulator", but also amateur DIRT rally.

    I plan to mount a Vertical 3DOF Simulator.
    For now, I'm just testing Simtools with an Arduino Uno R3 which controls a small platform with three miniature servos, with Live For Speed! .... Good ... we will say that it moves, is a start!
    I can not wait to test with other plugins and can move to the realization of the simulator.

    Excuse me for my English, Google translate does its best !

    See you soon
  8. noorbeast

    noorbeast VR Tassie Devil Staff Member Moderator Race Director

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  9. frsim09

    frsim09 Member

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    Thanks @noorbeast , ok for the thread and congratulations on all your projects
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  10. Vitaliy_Tambov

    Vitaliy_Tambov New Member

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    Здравствуйте
    Мое место жительства Тамбовской Российской Федерации. Регистрация на сайте, чтобы узнать все о строительстве перегрузки тренажера (SIM), от знающих людей. Я создам свой * 3DOF, как, например, в картинах.
    План работы:
    1. Собрать для тестов на основе 2dof таблице Arduino.
    2. Получить позицию телеметрии ралли игра Dirt.
    3. Собрать 2dof прототипа (как на фото 2), собирать данные, которые я, необходимое для 3DOF проекта.
    4. Запустите 3DOF проекта.
    * Не уверен, что я буду подходить 3 степенями свободы, и не сразу планировать 4.
    Спасибо всем . Надеюсь на вашу поддержку.


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    Hello
    My place of residence of the Russian Federation, Tambov. Registration on the site to find out all about the construction of the simulator overload (SIM), from knowledgeable people. I will build your * 3DOF, such as in the pictures.
    The work plan:
    1. Collect for tests based on 2dof Arduino table.
    2. Get the position telemetry rally game Dirt.
    3. Collect 2dof prototype (as in the photo 2), collect the data I needed to 3DOF project.
    4. Start 3DOF project.
    * I'm not sure that I would approach 3 degrees of freedom, and not just to plan 4.
    Thank you all. I hope for your support.
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  11. noorbeast

    noorbeast VR Tassie Devil Staff Member Moderator Race Director

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    Welcome @Vitaliy_Tambov

    Have a look at existing member builds, that may help you refine your own project: http://www.xsimulator.net/community/forums/diy-motion-simulator-projects.22/

    You will find plenty to get you started in the FAQs, from design software, dimension of sims, to PSUs, pots, motors, JRKs, Arduinos and Motor Monsters and more: http://www.xsimulator.net/community/faq/

    We have a glossary for all those pesky acronyms we tend to use, which will help you decipher some descriptions: http://www.xsimulator.net/community/faq/glossary-of-acronyms-and-names.66/

    When you are ready please start your own project thread here: http://www.xsimulator.net/community/forums/diy-motion-simulator-projects.22/

    Feel free to ask questions, the members here give freely of both their time and expertise.

    Good luck with your project.
  12. kafin

    kafin New Member

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  13. noorbeast

    noorbeast VR Tassie Devil Staff Member Moderator Race Director

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  14. Vitaliy_Tambov

    Vitaliy_Tambov New Member

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    Огромное спасибо.
    Хорошего дня.
  15. sjmy

    sjmy i like a wind

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    Hi gays

    My name is tao ning and I am very interested to bring some motion in my raceplace.

    Now the time is coming, that I will realize my dream of a e(motion)al Raceplace.
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  16. sjmy

    sjmy i like a wind

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    中文大家看的懂吗?
  17. noorbeast

    noorbeast VR Tassie Devil Staff Member Moderator Race Director

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    Welcome @sjmy.

    You have come to the right place, there is a really active community here who freely give of their time and expertise.

    You will find plenty to get you started in the FAQs, from design software, dimension of sims, to PSUs, pots, motors, JRKs, Arduinos and Motor Monsters and more: http://www.xsimulator.net/community/faq/

    If something sounds odd then look it up in the glossary: http://www.xsimulator.net/community/faq/glossary-of-acronyms-and-names.66/

    When you are ready please start your own project thread here: http://www.xsimulator.net/community/forums/diy-motion-simulator-projects.22/

    Good luck with your project.
  18. Gus290

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    hi, i'm from argentina and try to star my first project.
    regards
  19. noorbeast

    noorbeast VR Tassie Devil Staff Member Moderator Race Director

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    Welcome @Gus290.

    Have a look at existing member builds, that may help you refine your own project: http://www.xsimulator.net/community/forums/diy-motion-simulator-projects.22/

    You will find the FAQ section covers many detailed build related topics: http://www.xsimulator.net/community/faq/

    We have a glossary for all those pesky acronyms we tend to use, which will help you decipher some descriptions: http://www.xsimulator.net/community/faq/glossary-of-acronyms-and-names.66/

    When you are ready please start your own project thread here: http://www.xsimulator.net/community/forums/diy-motion-simulator-projects.22/

    Feel free to ask questions, the members here give freely of both their time and expertise.

    Good luck with your project.
  20. ymh

    ymh Goal 4 dof

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    Hi ~ I'm on 360 web pages to send message. Directly translated into English, it is estimated that many friends will look not to come out. No way, who let my English is not good. Ha ha ~ G force in high school like the car chair. Lucky enough to enter this mistake professional BBS, now study hard to make a four axis racing chair ~ now on web page translation machine in learning very hard, also please your comments. Thank you very much!