Do you think oculus rift will support motion simulators?

I have a Oculus Rift and after building my 2dof motion sim i exsperinced the following problem no coding can fix . Oculus munts to your head with a strap holding a screen in front of your face . any head jiggling causes screen blur , my favorite game dirt 3 for instance wouldnt be playable even if coding can acount for the sim movement for the depth cam , your eyes are still trying to focus on a screen tht is jiggling infront of your eyes, ive tryd to make the strap very tight so oculus was firm on my face still did very little to help . Im considering the option of using three nice screens and use head tracking .

i was actually refering to the movement of the oculus on your face durring jerky movements . however the best oculus -motion sim . i would say is no limits 2 rollercoaster just mount depth camera on desk or wall infront of sim

my sim moves the wheels and pedals i liked the feel better this way. and it seemed more versitial i can remove the wheel mount if im playing space games or doing rollercoaster rides in the oculus

This is a pic of my second sim my next ones will be a bit lighter and im gonna try and sell a few

I was thinking to use the rift , but turn off the motion tracking. I don't really move my head much anyway when I drive. Or could you just use the side to side axis of the rifts motion tracking to glance left/right? You don't need up down tracking for racing.

You have to modify the LibOVR source to override the orientation from the gyro in the rift.

A few months ago I got to test drive the internal prototype at oculus's office in Seattle and their biggest concern is people making experiences that run at too low fps magnifying the motion sickness. They were saying a single bad experience ruins a persons view of VR for life.

In some ways the low resolution on the dk1 provided a better (smoother) experience than dk2.

I have a gearVR as well but it's a mobile gpu running at higher resolution than the rift.......meh. It's workflow is completely retarded as well, can't just plug your phone into your computer and deploy to it for development, you have to build an apk, transfer it to the device, install it, plug it into the actual mask, and cover a sensor to get it to show on the screen.

Really hoping the htc vive ups the VR worlds game.

I have to agree with @noorbeast - from my experience with DK2 and motion simulators (which I now use together all the time) is that good synchronized motion + VR is not just an excellent combination, but combats motion sickness. I can ride on No limits 2 all day without an issue with motion, but turn it off and after a short while I can feel motion sickness coming on. I cannot understand why Palmer is not at least exploring this path.

Absolutely adding motion will reduce sickness. Low latency also helps visual comfort(opposite problem, your head is moving but what you see isn't updating fast enough and it's immediately uncomfortable). The opposite, your visuals are moving but body isn't moving and motion would help tremendously.

If I throw a bunch of dynamic lights on a high poly model with no optimizations (25fps or something low) and you look at it on the rift, it hurts immediately. If you turn away from it in the same scene, to objects with 1 or no lights, the fps triples and it's comfortable.

From what both of you have posted noorbeast and SeatTime, it appears you are stating motion sickness from no motion only after first using motion for a period of time or after being a “hardened VR veteran”. Once your brain has been conditioned and acclimated to motion, removing it therefore feels incorrect now causing your brain confusion and motion sickness imo. Personally, I have never felt motion sickness when not using motion with games like No Limits but I’ve never tried immediately after using motion either. Its possible also that using VR headsets makes you more sensitive to motion/non-motion since all other outside visual references are removed. I am waiting on VR headsets to mature more before purchasing myself. I agree though that “good synchronized motion” is a must regardless of using VR headsets or not!

Just for information, I also have never had motion sickness from just using monitors for any game with or without motion even after hours of use - VR is a different world - it just not no outside reference it just that it feels so real and can really mess with your head. You do build up a tolerance, I don't actually get physically sick anymore, it just certain games without motion that can make me feel 'off' and not comfortable to use - you learn to listen to your body. Sorry for all the edits, but it is not an easy thing for me to explain. Still love using VR though and would not go back to monitors on my sim.

Thanks for explaining a little more about your experiences on this topic guys . Like I said, I have not used VR yet, only 3d Vision w/trackir5 on a 67" dlp monitor that was 20 inches in front of my face. Sometimes the 3d on that did make me a little sick at times (with and without motion) but I was usually already feeling a little off anyway when that happened. It could be that the added perception of depth with 3d and VR makes one even more perceptible to motion sickness if everything is not just right.

Would mounting the Rift camera to the frame with the seat fix the disorientation caused by the headset moving with seat movement against a fixed camera point?

Fellows,
This is a very good thread as I want to go with the "Rift" when it's RTM / or / one of the other up and coming VR units..........
Isn't it "odd", that when I go deep-sea fishing, and far out away from land, with movement of boat, that I'll get sicker than an ol' dog IF I haven't taken ginger tablets or use a dermapatch....
And now, in our "realm of motion sims and Rift" that w/o motion, we get sick.............for the life of me, I cannot get my head around that concept.....

Tom