How to convert Simexperience motionrig to Simtools

noorbeast · Jan 2, 2017

abs said: ↑

Hello does anyone know about the wires of that simxperience actuator ? I may buy a SNC5 150 from simxperience second hand and want to use it for my rig for traction loss (3rd actuator).
can someone help about those wire in one single plug? How many wire in that single plug ? colors ? details about what goes where in a RS485-usb and a power supply 24 v.
thx
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Try the relevant FAQ section: https://www.xsimulator.net/community/faq/scn5-scn6.2/category

abs · Jan 2, 2017

I did but no clear info for what I may try to do
How many wires, colors , purpose of the wires in the simxperience plug are unknown to me .
If someone could summaraise what are those wires going to that plug that would help greatly

I guess I would have to remove the plsatc cap and compare to the snc5 I already have in my rig . It would be possibly easier that way ...
however I may not buy that actuator and not take a chance as I am not really in my confort zone

abs · Jan 3, 2017

Gelatin said: ↑

Perhaps this pic is better to check wiring:

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I tried with 2 wires, even 4 wires with optional internal 5V. No effect at all.
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Hello Gelatin are thes the wire I should see inside the plastic cap of any snc5 ? These are the one we use for motion ?
thanks

Jacob Pederson · Jan 23, 2017

prodigy said: ↑

Thank you also for your findings.

I have recently bought Simxperience Motion Kit with two SCN5 150mm and SX4000 inside the box, even though on the big sticker it's written SX3000. Anyway, for a few days now I've been playing with SimCommander 4, I will write more about it when I open my own thread (not liking the UI design at all), but I wanted to switch to SimTools anyway. I was afraid I would need those RS adapters and rewire everything, changing the ID's, but that is not needed at all.

The Simtools can work with SimXP SX4000 box without any modifications to box itself needed and it worked liked the charm!

Just connect the SX4000 to PC, it will install necessary drivers if it's the first plug and it will add 4 SCN devices in device manager, assigning comports to each devices.

Easy to set it up in Simtools Game Engine -> Interface Settings -> Interface 1 Tab
Output type: SCN
Comport: COM3 (or whatever it is for your first actuator)
Packet Rate: 10ms
Assigned Axis: Axis 1
Speed and Acceleration as wished - I have mine Speed at 5000 and Acceleration at 500 for testing purposes, will play with those later..
Click SAVE, popup dialog will say to restart Simtools to take ffect, you can do it right away or add second actuator and restart then.

Same setup goes for second actuator, just go on Interface 2 Tab, choose comport for other actuator and assign axis 2, same speed and acceleration to match both SCN's. Once the Simtools Game Engine is restarted, both actuator should reach their high and low max positions and center themselves. Then I went to Output testing to test the Axis output and both actuators were moving fine.

I didn't have any comport errors like @Mavness probably because my first two SCN ports were COM3 and COM4, while second two COM5 and COM6 that are in device manager aren't connected to SX4000 anyway, I have only two SCN's. So all comports are below number 10.

Game testing went also fine, I've only tested it with rFactor 2, need to capture min/max in Tuning Center, but the movement is there. Can't wait to test more games, it's so much easier with Simtools, this community is so great!!

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I'm having issues trying to make this work related to the assigned axis's are now 1a-6a and 1b-6b . Do I want a 1a and a 2a or a 1a and a 1b ? Thanks!

abs · Jan 24, 2017

Hello Jacob , it could be that the older model sx3000 is not compatible with sim tools? Anyhow, for one thing you could use a devantech rs485-USB or similar interface and rewire the controls. I believe you d need only one interface per snc5. I ll edit this reply later with info about rs485

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/FTDI-USB-to-...642426?hash=item3ad715f07a:g:RikAAOxyeZNTR99F

or http://www.robotshop.com/en/devantech-usb-rs-485-interface.html

your can rewire quite easily . there is doc available in here

edit : noorbeast understood you question. sorry I did not. ibelieve you ll be ok...

noorbeast · Jan 23, 2017

Jacob Pederson said: ↑

I'm having issues trying to make this work related to the assigned axis's are now 1a-6a and 1b-6b . Do I want a 1a and a 2a or a 1a and a 1b ? Thanks!
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In most cases the Axis Assignment grouping will be 1a, 2a and so on.

Jacob Pederson · Jan 25, 2017

noorbeast said: ↑

In most cases the Axis Assignment grouping will be 1a, 2a and so on.
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Thanks guys! It was 1a and 2a that I needed to make it work. Elite Dangerous is a go

patritti · Jan 29, 2017

i run on my rig 3 simexperience 150mm SCN6 with the sim experience box . did have to modified or change anything . i can start the rig with sim experience or sim tools on the fly .

nipzon · Jul 11, 2017

Gelatin said: ↑

Nclabs!

The problem had detected and solved.

Afternoon I had time to re-read posts and I realised what happend. The problem was that grey wire what Rinus mentioned.
It is interesting, because frex's actuators work with opposit wiring. Frex wires emergency switch directly on the 24v red line and the grey wire is on the same line with black wire, thereby simexperience's actuators interpreted that the emergency switch was off in this case. This is what confused me totally.
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I need some help please. Reading thru the posts it is still unclear to me does Simxp use the grey wire to +24V or 0V
Talking to shige from Frex he says they use the grey wire to 0V not +24V

stashy · Apr 13, 2018

hi im using sx-4000 with scn6 and im getting error one of your interface requires game engine to be restarted
fixed it now trying to learn sim tools

prodigy · Apr 13, 2018

@stashy

Asking the same question in multiple topics is not going to help you get the answer quicker..

And be more detailed about what have you already done until the error appeared.

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