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my firts project

Discussion in 'DIY Motion Simulator Projects' started by christianr3, Mar 2, 2012.

  1. AldoZ

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    Hi, your motor seems to be really powerful! Never tried to lift 70 or 80kg? If yes how they work when are lifting these kg?
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    :hi: hello aldoz, the truth is that the engines are very strong, are those used david, and he says they are very good, but I have not finished building the simulator, the power supplies reach me within 15 days, it is my first simulator, I have no experience hehehe ... I weigh 80 kilos, my goal is:

    1 ... to the simulator with a total of 30 kilos, between the frame, seat, pedals, motors, power supply, I think I can do it, so the engines work smoother :fly: , at the time it reaches the power supply makes the first tests, and I will write here the results :thbup:
  3. bsft

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    Hello Aldoz and Christian. I have used these motors under the back of a frex frame where they were only 300mm away from the pivot point and they moved me great, I then moved then forward to 350mm from the pivot point and still no problem moving me . By the way, I weigh in at 82-84 kg. I have had one of my kids on my lap for a few races, so thats 30kg extra and forward on the centre of gravity. No noticable loss in movement, even with over 110kg. It actually took a buddy of mine at 130kg to slow the motors, but it still gave him a good ride.
    Look at this video, the motors are 350mm forward pivot point http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbN8XF027lc. I did not calculate the actual weight they have to lift. I just simply used the same positioning as my previous builds. My builds were loosely based on DERIY's setup.
    Christian is going down a good path to start with. The motors do require some power to move them well, however, motion can be set according to max current. I've had mine at 25amps max current. Good motion, but obviously not as good as 34 amps on the jrk's.
    Great work Christian, this will work, just some testing and experimenting of motion profiles and jrk PID settings.
    Cheers, David.
  4. christianr3

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    : :clap: this movement is very real, I think is the proper configuration, short and fast movements, is what I get in mine :yes:
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    Hi mate! Really cool video! And seems a really good profile too!. :cheers:
    Are these the motors showed on the christianr3 pics in this thread?
    I am very curious to know how many kg can they lift in vertical line!
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    Yes, they are exactly the same motor as mine, he even bought them from the same supplier. No I do not know how much they would lift. Never bothered to find out.
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    There are detailed test specs for the motors on the page. You can figure out precicely how much weight they can lift from the specs.

    The maximum power output is 187,9 W. At that load it wastes 379,7 W of power, and draws a current of 49,87 A at a voltage of 11,38 V. At max power out it has a torque of 26,4 Nm and a speed of 33,9 rpm. The winches are actually more efficient, but have a very sloppy geartrain.

    26,4 Nm means it can lift a maximum of 2,69 kg with a 1 m long arm, or 26,9 kg with a 10 cm long arm.
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    Thanks dude, I have a 45mm long arm on my motors. But overall swing is 80mm from top to bottom , so I am guessing I can lift 50kg with one motor. But yes, the winches are better setup for weight lifting.
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    :) Here I show a little more forward in my simulator, I hope your opinion and advice :thbup:

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    Nice job there, remember to put a fan over the top of each JRK to keep them cool.
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    thanks!, I have the fancooler, tomorrow I place on each card
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    Progress looking good! That is a very compact setup indeed!
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    :hi: thanks!, I'm doing the most compact possible that my room is very small :thbup:
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    Hi Christian, very good your work, get up and running now!

    Regards
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    :hi: thanks friend, I still need to finish assembling the electrical parts, but I think in a week I'll start with the test!
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    some more progress today :yes: , I put a fan to each card, also buy a usb port multiplier to send a single cable for pc, and put a plug in the future to place the sound in the simulator...if they have any advice for me I appreciate it :thbup:

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    IMG00049.jpg hello friends :hi: , I've been a long time with my project stopped, because my card pololu 12v-12 was damaged when installed, next week I get the replacement, but I am slowly moving in the building, here I show a little progress :yes: , I finally bought the steering wheel and pedals and install them, I'm raising money for the seat, while'll end assembly and adjust everything and I start testing, if I can help you understand how to use x-sim software is the I thank you, greetings :thbup:

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    Nice job there, looks great, hope it doesnt flex too much for you though.
    And I hope pololu replaced the blown JRK for free or reduced cost.
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    thanks friend
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    hola mi nombre es christian y me gustaria saber si alguien de ustedes utiliza las tarjetas pololu 12v-12, yo empeze mi proyecto con estas tarjetas y creo que ya funciona, pero aun no se como utilizar x-sim, y por eso no se como hacer para que se mueva mis motores con x-sim, si alguien puede ayudarme se lo agradezco, saludos :hi:


    traduccion

    hello my name is christian and I would like to know if anyone of you use the cards pololu 12v-12, I began my project with these cards and I think it works, but still do not know how to use x-sim, so as not do to move my engines with x-sim, if anyone can help I thank you, greetings :hi: