PT-Actuators 3DOF system?

I think the actuators come with U-shape mounts already... See:

And here see how these mounts are used to attach the actuators:



Ignore the base... this is for traction loss...

Ideally I think 8020 160mm profile would be the best for mounting these actuators but I think 80 will also work too, found this setup online and I plan on pretty much doing the exact same thing with the GT1 evo rig.

https://imgur.com/gallery/omVmQW4

I've been using my simlabs Evo with the monitor mount with 4 x actuators for nearly 2 months with no issues.

Excellent, thanks for confirming the GT1 Evo will work with the actuators without issues. Are you using the Nanobox for the controller?

Nice setup there!

How do you find the combination of seat mover AND motion actuators? Does it make much difference vs. just having the motion actuators?

Also the belt tension system, is that just working off the movement generated from the seat mover? Does it work well to simulate the braking forces? I'm looking to see if I can do something similar but I don't have seat mover only the motion actuators. I think for it to work I need to find a way to fix the belts to the actual floor.

@ Scblacksunshine - no problems, Im using the Thanos AMC-AASD15A.

I'm really happy with the actuators, the only issue with Putuo is that you get absolutely no instructions at all? And no help with a simtools setup. Also something I think they should address is there is no emergency stop button. I'm getting a Fanatec emergency stop button attached to my Thanos, thanks to Thanos emailing me back with the instructions. I've passed this job onto my mate George from Simcore who will install this weekend. https://simcore.com.au/. George is another genius Greek pioneer in our hobby.

The problem with simtools if your new is it is very difficult to work out if you have no experience. The way that Dof reality has made an easy to use simtools interface is better.

@ LukeBrown - Ive been using a seatmover for the past 6 years with a simxperience stage 3, so I really enjoyed being pushed into the steering wheel. Just the Putuo servos generating the pitch effect was not enough, I got motion sickness as my brain expected me to be pushed into the steering wheel when braking. The combination of seat mover and actuators is very good.

Yes, the belt tension system is working off the movement generated from the seat mover. And yes it does work well to simulate the braking forces. Its also great at simulating g forces while flying in DCS.

I think the manual helps with basic setup for simtools... need to be updated of course a little bit...

https://github.com/tronicgr/AMC-AAS...r/AMC-AASD15A_ 4DOF+TL-Simtools_manual_v1.pdf

Thanks Thanos.

FYI - See video of emergency stop button attached to my Thanos thanks to George at Simcore.

edit- not sure how to send video?

You can share on dropbox, or just post unlisted on YouTube if don't want it public, and share link here...

It's arrived! Just a shame my SimLab chassis is still at least 3-4 weeks away.

Cool, keep us updated, which chassis did you go with? GT1 evo or p1x?

HOOo really good stuff! I am curious to see the result because I have a rSeat like yours and I think seriously about Sim-Lab P1-X or Trak Racer TR160.

The only disadvantage I see here is the AMC-Nano Controller which can only receive 3 actuators, counter to the AMC-AASD15A Controller who can handle 6 actuators.

Please, can you detail the costs, if it is not too indiscreet (price of items, taxes, shipping)

In the end I've placed an order the P1-X, just because it's a known product rather than being in the first batch of 'test' customers for the new Trak Racer chassis. Also when I was comparing the two, I actually prefer the Podium DD mount that the Simlab has. It seems like it would be more rigid compared to the Trakracer which is a metal plate bolted onto the aluminum profile. That plate could potential have some flex around it's pivot point for the angle adjustment (a bit like the RSeat wheel mount where the bolts for setting the wheel angle are also the main structural points of attachment for wheel plate). It's hard to say for sure without there being any reviews on it yet, just my gut feeling from looking at picture.

Yes the controller Iv'e got does limit it to 3 actuators, so if I ever wanted to expand I would need to consider upgrading the controller as well as an extra actuator. Hopefully I'm satisfied with just 3, haha! The price for my 3DOF system was $5,000 AUD including shipping, GST and import tax.

Yeah, the Sim-Lab P1-X seem to be a great choice and 3 actuators should do it! Look forward to seeing your final installation (photos and video, if possible).

Merci for the infos ^^

Actually the AMC-NANO can be plugged on a 4in1 unit as well for 4DOF, and there is an expansion addon available for up to 8DOF support if you need more...



Thanks
Thanos

Yeah, still waiting for them to release final US pricing on the TR160 vs P1-X. Right now I do like the P1-X more but that shipping cost to the US is pretty steep. Trackracer might be doing free shipping in the US, will have to wait and see. Like you, I am not sure about the DD1 mount on the TR160, I rather have a side mount option. The one I am leaning mostly towards is the GT1 Ev0, being lighter and very slightly smaller and cheaper. Judging from the pictures from another user, doesn't look like an issue with the actuators either.

Ok it's good to know, but the AMC-Nano Controller that LukeBrown has received is limited to 3
... unless he adds options ($)

True, but he could get later 4in1 or 3in1 or even 2in1 drive depending how many additional actuators he needs and the 8dof addon...

Just saying there is room for expansion...

Video below of initial testing on a mock frame. This video just shows the standard up/down testing using the buttons on Thanos controller but I've also since tested it with Simtools and it all seems to be working correctly once I had figured out the correct axis assignments. I'm definitely impressed by the strength & speed of the actuators and also they are quieter than I had expected.

The only thing I need to get some advice on is the grounding. I have a friend who is electrician so he will have a look at it for me later this week. It comes with an Australian 3 pin plug but the ground/earth wire is wrapped up and does not connect to anywhere on the MDBox. I think I need to connect this ground wire to an earth terminal on the MDbox and/or run an earth cable from a metal part of chassis to an earthed pole/pipe/socket somewhere in the room. If I stand on the floor and touch an actuator it's fine, but if I sit in my race seat (so my feet are off the floor and in contact with metal heel plate and pedals) and then I touch an actuator I can feel an electrical current/vibration. Not a shock as such, but enough not to be able to hold it for more than a few seconds.