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SimTools v3 Public Beta

Discussion in 'Tutorials and Tips by the Developer' started by yobuddy, Sep 26, 2022.

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  1. prophet.id

    prophet.id Member Gold Contributor

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    My Motion Simulator:
    DC motor, Arduino, 6DOF
    What causes 'out of range' in the virtual output?
    I am playing Assetto Corza
    My DIY rig is 6dof rotational using SMC3.

    When an axis 'out of range', my rig stop moving and then resume moving when no longer out of range, which is make sense.
    But how to prevent this out of range? What are the factors?

    [​IMG]
    prophet.id, Feb 22, 2025 at 23:14
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  2. BrassEm

    BrassEm G-Seat + SFX100 Builder Gold Contributor

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    WARNING!!!!!!


    I fired up my SFX-100 rig for a quick fly around the new afghanistan map.
    Turned on the Thanos controllers and homed the rig as normal.
    Fired up Simtools V3 and it asked if I wanted to update? I clicked okay without thinking and....

    After the update finished the sfx-100 rose to its normal zero start point as if I had started DCS???

    DAMN! How do I lower the rig back down? If I start testing in Simtools to "energise the drives to zero point" and they already are at zero point - will they drive even further up and crash at the top end. If I don't have control at the top end the whole rig will crash at full extended height! Not prudent!

    I bit the bullet and shutdown Simtools. The Rig stayed at the "zero" point and didn't lower under any motion control. I had not choice but to hit the E-stop and watch the rig crash down. (It appears my rig is a little nose heavy if any good is to come out of this!)

    I turned everything off for a minute and started the usual start up routine, hoping that any glitch would be flushed out.
    Turned on the thanos controllers and the rig homed.
    The front right didn't home right and read -92 while the others homed okay.

    I turned everything off for a minute and started the usual start up routine.
    Turned on the thanos controllers and energised the drives...
    The rig went wild, bucking as different motors went from limit to limit at full speed. I hit the E-stop and rig crashed to the ground.

    @yobuddy Would you please put a prominent warning on the update dialog to DO NOT HAVE YOUR MOTION RIG TURNED ON BEFORE UPDATING so that others may avoid whatever predicament I am now in.

    Thanks.
    Last edited: Feb 23, 2025 at 05:46
    BrassEm, Feb 23, 2025 at 03:06
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  3. yobuddy

    yobuddy Well-Known Member Staff Member Moderator SimAxe Beta Tester SimTools Developer Gold Contributor

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    Hi @BrassEm,
    The update has SimTools check that your Sim is in it's correct parking location on startup is all. (The same place it will leave it after a game.) You can set the location you want it to use on the Parking Location page. This action has always been there, but it was skipped if no custom location was selected, and seemed to only run on interface #1 for some.

    Here is the update log for the new version...
    Fixed - A problem where SimTools would not auto detect the launch of some 64bit games.
    Fixed - A problem where only interface #1 was re-parking when SimTools starts up. (all interfaces now work)

    I think your card has parking & re-parking routines built in? My guess is the SimTools startup parking routine is finishing and shutting down the interface before the onboard unparking routine has completed. Have you ever clicked the Save & Park button on the Parking Location page in SimTools v3 before? (As the startup routine is the same as the Save & Park button routine is all)

    I will add back the 'skip parking routine, if no custom location is selected' thing tomorrow and push another update. I can make 'parking on startup' an option, or figure something else out.
    Thanks for your post, and sorry for the problems.
    Chat soon!
    yobuddy, Feb 23, 2025 at 06:19
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  4. yobuddy

    yobuddy Well-Known Member Staff Member Moderator SimAxe Beta Tester SimTools Developer Gold Contributor

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    Hi @prophet.id,
    In the pic you posted above, it shows you have the A Axis selected for 'Axis to Show'. So you would want to lower the the A Axis Assignments axis totals for the profile. Simply lower all of the axis totals on the page say 10 percent or so and see how it goes.
    yobuddy, Feb 23, 2025 at 06:34
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  5. BrassEm

    BrassEm G-Seat + SFX100 Builder Gold Contributor

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    @yobuddy I have never saved any parking location before as it always worked with the default settings out of the box with the Thanos controllers.

    If you could somehow make it how it was before that there were no commands output until after the game app, or testing functions were activated? I think that is what you were getting at?

    Should I uninstall and reinstall V3 afresh to make sure nothing is corrupted and at default settings?

    Using these motion rigs has risks and it must be accepted that problems (sometimes major) may occur. For me the benefits far outweigh the risks for sure.

    Cheers,
    BrassEm, Feb 23, 2025 at 13:52
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